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  • PuroFreakPuroFreak Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 4,132
    you can protest the government, but it doesn't change anything. The government has all the power in this situation because they are forcing you into their program. You have no choice... Where as with an insurance company you do have a choice. Go elsewhere. If everyone left, the company will change, or go away totally. We don't have that option with the Govt. Health care they are trying to pass.
  • jsnakejsnake Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 5,037
    on what puro is saying totally true. I have been without insurance. I worked my a$$ off to get to where I am today to provide a better life for my family. I chose to get up off my butt and fix my situation. I loved being a cop but it was going no where with no benefits and no money. $600 a month for crap insurance. I went to the railroad and have the best damn insurance in the country. I also pay 0 social security taxes but pay into railroad retirement instead. My retirement makes social security look like a joke. I did all this though knowing what I was doing to improve my situation instead of expecting a handout. Not saying anyone here is lazy or wanting free stuff but seriously how many people out there in the US think they are entitled. Makes me sick I work so hard and sacrificed so much and these people think we need to just take care of them. If a person is disabled or can't physically work that is different.
  • kuzi16kuzi16 Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 14,471
  • kuzi16kuzi16 Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 14,471
    Vulchor:
    every post with any "facts" listed would simply be shot down with other "facts" which support a different opinion and attempt to prove yours wrong
    isnt that what a debate is?
  • jsnakejsnake Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 5,037
    Michael Moore is so against capitalism yet he charges for his movies and has got rich off his capitalistic ways. I have never seen a bigger hypocrite and lying POS in my life. Oh wait, I take that back, I think Barack Hussein Obama has him beat. Never thought we would see someone lie more than a Clinton.
  • kuzi16kuzi16 Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 14,471
  • jsnakejsnake Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 5,037
    Look up Barack Obama lies and the laundry list flows. Not saying he is the only liar out there! We all know all politicians lie. ALL of them!! The man is a great speaker but when I watch him speak he gives me the creeps and I do not believe a word he says. Just too much stuff to list here to justify my statement. It is my personal opinion and how I personally feel about the man. He said he wasn't going to raise my taxes but watch it is going to happen. We can't keep paying for all this junk without raising taxes. But he is going to raise taxes on the rich and corporations. Do you honestly think Pepsi pays those taxes out of their pockets. Your can of Pepsi has all those taxes incorporated into the price and they will go up as their taxes go up.
  • VulchorVulchor Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 4,176
    jsnake:
    Look up Barack Obama lies and the laundry list flows. Not saying he is the only liar out there! We all know all politicians lie. ALL of them!! The man is a great speaker but when I watch him speak he gives me the creeps and I do not believe a word he says. Just too much stuff to list here to justify my statement. It is my personal opinion and how I personally feel about the man. He said he wasn't going to raise my taxes but watch it is going to happen. We can't keep paying for all this junk without raising taxes. But he is going to raise taxes on the rich and corporations. Do you honestly think Pepsi pays those taxes out of their pockets. Your can of Pepsi has all those taxes incorporated into the price and they will go up as their taxes go up.
    Actually, he said he wasnt going to raise taxes on people making under a certain amount. Sure, business will try to deflect their costs onto the consumer...but even without increased taxes, the desire of the better bottom line will always exist. Luckily for business, we have plenty of willing Americans to stand by and do their hardest to ensure the corporations prosper as much as possible under the pretense of capitalism and choice correcting the markets.
  • kuzi16kuzi16 Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 14,471
    Vulchor:
    Luckily for business, we have plenty of willing Americans to stand by and do their hardest to ensure the corporations prosper as much as possible under the pretense of capitalism and choice correcting the markets.
    so you are against prosperity of businesses?
  • VulchorVulchor Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 4,176
    On the topic of taxes and the siutatuation that is causing CEO's and various big businesses to not get their annual million dollar bounues and lavish X-Mas parties.....anyone give any thought to the fact many of the jobs lost will not be returning because the people at the top want to keep their salaries high....thus making 10 people do the work that 12 used to do is much more sensible now, since they have gotten used to it anyway and they are expendable. Afterall, the only thing companies and business owners are to do is turn a bottom line. The govt, the employers, no one should be forced to provide health care or any other service to people----we are only responsible for our own success or failure, our own financial prospering or failing, and.....never to the betterness of our fellow people of the human race and nor should our government. Now where are the 5-10 other people on these boards to inflate my ego and tell me how right I am and how others that dont think like me are the antichrist?
  • VulchorVulchor Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 4,176
    Some businesses, Kuzi....I do indeed hope to see fail
  • kuzi16kuzi16 Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 14,471
  • kuzi16kuzi16 Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 14,471
  • VulchorVulchor Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 4,176
    Lol.....yes Kuzi...indeed to your first post and to your second I applaud your altruism and good nature. funnnnnnny these boards, depressing, but funny.
  • Joey PetersenJoey Petersen Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 45
    Man, everyone's going crazy over this whole Nobel Peace prize award thing. for god f*cking sakes, before Obama got it, you guys all could have cared less who f*cking won it. Now that Obama wins it, everyone starts a banter on the guy. Ever think that maybe he won it due to him being the FIRST african-american president? That is peace, our country has gone from enslaving African-Americans to now one being president of our country. You guys go try to accomplish something like that... Now f*king suck my d1ck you obama hatin b1tches!!!!
  • PuroFreakPuroFreak Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 4,132
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  • phobicsquirrelphobicsquirrel Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 7,349
  • phobicsquirrelphobicsquirrel Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 7,349
    Joey Petersen:
    Man, everyone's going crazy over this whole Nobel Peace prize award thing. for god f*cking sakes, before Obama got it, you guys all could have cared less who f*cking won it. Now that Obama wins it, everyone starts a banter on the guy. Ever think that maybe he won it due to him being the FIRST african-american president? That is peace, our country has gone from enslaving African-Americans to now one being president of our country. You guys go try to accomplish something like that... Now f*king suck my d1ck you obama hatin b1tches!!!!
    I wondered that myself actually. But then I just look back at the democratic presidents in recent memory and usually they are attacked for anything they do, whether it is good or not. I thought it was surprising he won but I don't think he doesn't deserve it. I think that it was a bit pre-mature but none the less, hopefully it will propel him to continue to promote peace and to fix many broken ties in the world which we have broken.
  • KriegKrieg Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 5,068
    Joey Petersen:
    Man, everyone's going crazy over this whole Nobel Peace prize award thing. for god f*cking sakes, before Obama got it, you guys all could have cared less who f*cking won it. Now that Obama wins it, everyone starts a banter on the guy. Ever think that maybe he won it due to him being the FIRST african-american president? That is peace, our country has gone from enslaving African-Americans to now one being president of our country. You guys go try to accomplish something like that... Now f*king suck my d1ck you obama hatin b1tches!!!!
    So basically according to you he won the award for being black...well then that just proves my point. The Nobel Peace Prize doesn't mean a damn thing anymore. And congratulations Joey in showing how truly ignorant you really are.
  • phobicsquirrelphobicsquirrel Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 7,349
    Krieg:
    Joey Petersen:
    Man, everyone's going crazy over this whole Nobel Peace prize award thing. for god f*cking sakes, before Obama got it, you guys all could have cared less who f*cking won it. Now that Obama wins it, everyone starts a banter on the guy. Ever think that maybe he won it due to him being the FIRST african-american president? That is peace, our country has gone from enslaving African-Americans to now one being president of our country. You guys go try to accomplish something like that... Now f*king suck my d1ck you obama hatin b1tches!!!!
    So basically according to you he won the award for being black...well then that just proves my point. The Nobel Peace Prize doesn't mean a damn thing anymore. And congratulations Joey in showing how truly ignorant you really are.
    I think that being black and being president was surely something to do with it. I mean it is a huge thing for America. But the chairman or what-ever gave their reason's on voting on Obama's win. And for me personally I feel that warming up Iran and getting China, Russia to join America in pressing them was a HUGE step. I'd rather this end peacefully than going to war. If Iran can be ironed out peacefully that would be a grand step in stabalizing the region. Also Hillary and McCain both had nothing nice to say about Iran during the campaign's and insinuated going to war with them. Bush did too with all that crap spewed after 9-11. I'm glad we are moving down the road of using diplomacy and in joining with other world powers to fix "problem" areas.
  • VulchorVulchor Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 4,176
    This is getting ridiculous, the opinions of the majority in here finding ways too make absurd conclusions based on an opinion and the my $hit dont stink attitude masqueraded in altruism, truth, and defense of the constitution. Also funny how many 20 and early 30 somethings there are here who talk like 82 year old men....cracks me up.
  • phobicsquirrelphobicsquirrel Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 7,349
    Vulchor:
    This is getting ridiculous, the opinions of the majority in here finding ways too make absurd conclusions based on an opinion and the my $hit dont stink attitude masqueraded in altruism, truth, and defense of the constitution. Also funny how many 20 and early 30 somethings there are here who talk like 82 year old men....cracks me up.
    hey I'm 28 and feel 90.....
  • VulchorVulchor Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 4,176
    28 here too.....sometimes feel 87, other times 12 at most------d@mn the polarities:)
  • PuroFreakPuroFreak Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 4,132
    Vulchor:
    This is getting ridiculous, the opinions of the majority in here finding ways too make absurd conclusions based on an opinion and the my $hit dont stink attitude masqueraded in altruism, truth, and defense of the constitution. Also funny how many 20 and early 30 somethings there are here who talk like 82 year old men....cracks me up.
    How can you critisize people for something you do on these threads on a daily basis?
  • PuroFreakPuroFreak Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 4,132
    Race is absolutely not an issue here. I think it is wonderful that we are able to elect a black man. It shows this country has come a long ways and that is a great thing! I am proud of that, and don't have an issue with President Obama's race. I have a problem with his policies and ideas. I would vote tomorrow for J.C. Watts if he would come back and run for President, but he is too honest and too smart to get back into the political world. He was always one of the most honest, and well liked people in Washington from both sides. I think he would be a wonderful President, but I think he is just happy to be out of the corruption of Washington.
  • LukoLuko Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 2,004
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