So then would it be overreaching to say that although they are a superb product with excellent performance, perhaps part of the draw is the prestige of owning a $50,000 set of speakers? Not to mention the equipment driving them?
Certainly. I mean, you have to understand how much is involved with speakers like that. As you mentioned, somebody who owns those is going to have, oh, at least twice that in the equipment driving them. And by "equipment" I mean only amp(s), preamp, cd player (or turntable), and cables; a man can spend $8-9k just on a pair of speaker cables.
But even then you're just at the beginning. There's no point buying that kind of setup if you don't have a dedicated, purpose-built listening room for it. Then you've got the separate electrical mains to run it off of. And so forth.
That's incredible. To those with the means and desire, I say more power to them. I'll never quite understand the audiophile mindset, but I certainly won't begrudge their pleasure.
I wouldn't mind that kind of set up....even though my ears can only hear between the ranges of 20Hz - maybe 18kHz, the sonic waves have to feel good on the skin! Then again, I'd be happy with a nice pair of KRKs
Huge metal and classic rock fan here.
A general idea
Pink Floyd
The Beatles
Rush
Ted Nugent
Opeth
Cannibal Corpse
Death
Amon Amarth
Obituary
Entombed
Judas Priest
Metallica
The list could go much longer...
Certainly. I mean, you have to understand how much is involved with speakers like that. As you mentioned, somebody who owns those is going to have, oh, at least twice that in the equipment driving them. And by "equipment" I mean only amp(s), preamp, cd player (or turntable), and cables; a man can spend $8-9k just on a pair of speaker cables.
But even then you're just at the beginning. There's no point buying that kind of setup if you don't have a dedicated, purpose-built listening room for it. Then you've got the separate electrical mains to run it off of. And so forth.
You also have to have cable elevators to get those 9k speaker cables off the floor. An AC cord that is about 6 Gauge, a hospital grade receptecle and yes dedicated lines for the Digital and power - with ac power conditioners. What about the interconnects - can't skimp there.
I probably do have 20K in my tunes, but no analog which is noticeable better. But I just can't bring myself to pay another 30 bucks per album. I did skimp, so to speak, on the interconnects and speaker cable. I did however run seperate ac lines to the digital and power amps with hospital grade receptacles, but I did it myself, so the cost was probably about 100 bucks.
There is more than just the frequencies you can hear. There is a thing called sound stage depth and width. Does the music reside outside the speakers. Can you hear the individual instruments in space. Does the sax sound behind the speakers and to the left - is the guitar to the right and front... etc... Does the musical sound analytical or does it sound musical.
I purchased my last stuff about 3 years ago and have no regrets. It's just what you like and what's important to you. I do like it! - But we are in a world with mp3 files Different strokes..
You'll get no argument from me. Sounds like a sweet setup. As for me, basically, I finally realized I was never going to be able to set up a proper listening room, so I adjusted my expectations and went for simplicity.
My room is far from perfect, but you have to live there. Well I have to live there.
I did see a guy's set up in his basement. He had 40 K strads and all the ancillary equipent. Glowing tubes, REL sub, 1 ft diamter speaker cables held up by small bridges... Actually he was in Audiogon's dream system or satisified for now - one of the virtual systems... Anyway, each speaker along with the sub - was marked with tape as well as a single chair's placement - which sat in the perfect center position... One chair... I did sit in the CHAIR and it did sound wonderful, but.... seemed a bit excessive. I kind of was thinking perhaps some electrostat headphoness and a headphone amp - perhaps knock off like 95K off the system price. But hey... Guess he's got the cash and it makes him happy - Hell I'm just jealous. He was like 45 and retired...
If you like Megadeth and don't already have it or have not heard of it, get the new album Endgame. Its friggen awesome. Mustaine and Friedman shred on this one.
These are my absolute favorites and by no means encompass all that I listen to. I like everything except rap.
Alice in Chains
Stone Temple Pilots
Scott Weiland
Sevendust
Shinedown
Trapt
Chevelle
A Perfect Circle
Brian "Head" Welch
Metallica
Black Eyed Peas
Eric Clapton
CCR
Enya
Alicia Keys
I have eccentric tastes, me thinks. Just some of what *I* consider classic:
AC/DC - Back in Black
Alice in Chains - Dirt
Andrew Lloyd Webber - The Phantom of the Opera
Beethoven - Symphony No. 9
Coldplay - Parachutes
Deftones - White Pony
DJ Micro - Tech-Mix Live
Dr. Dre - The Chronic
Dream Theater - Awake
Duke Ellington - Never No Lament
Enya - Watermark
Garth Brooks - Ropin' The Wind
Hatebreed - Perseverance
Hopesfall - Magnetic North
Jane's Addiction - Ritual De Lo Habitual
John Barry - Dances With Wolves Soundtrack
John Mayer - Continuum
Johnny Cash - At Folsom
Journey - Escape
Marvin Gaye - What's Going On
Megadeth - Rust in Peace
Metallica - Master of Puppets
Michael Jackson - Thriller
Mozart - Requiem
Notorious B.I.G. - Life After Death
Pantera - Vulgar Display of Power
Pearl Jam - Ten
Pink Floyd - The Dark Side of the Moon
Puccini - La bohème
Queensryche - Operation: Mindcrime
Rogers & Hammerstein - Carousel
Rush - Moving Pictures
Rush - 2112
Sarah McLachlan - Fumbling towards Escasy
Skid Row - Slave to the Grind
Slayer - Reign in Blood
Stone Temple Pilots - Core
Tori Amos - Little Earthquakes
U2 - The Joshua Tree
Usher - Confessions
Van Halen - MCMLXXXIV
I lsten to almost everything with the exception of country.....
Tool A perfect circle Metallica Megadeath Slayer Sepultura Slipknot Mudvayne Tom Petty Pink Floyd Led Zepplin Cream Ice T Ice Cube Dr Dre ACDC Motley Crue Mushroomhead Queensryche
And pretty much anything else thats heavy and fast and iam sure i left a ton more i left off.
I have eccentric tastes, me thinks. Just some of what *I* consider classic:
bro love me some Dream Theater. Put on Scenes or Octavarium and just chill with a cigar, good times. Still haven't picked up the new album is it any good?
Huge metal and classic rock fan here.
A general idea
Pink Floyd
The Beatles
Rush
Ted Nugent
Opeth
Cannibal Corpse
Death
Amon Amarth
Obituary
Entombed
Judas Priest
Metallica
The list could go much longer...
I have eccentric tastes, me thinks. Just some of what *I* consider classic:
bro love me some Dream Theater. Put on Scenes or Octavarium and just chill with a cigar, good times. Still haven't picked up the new album is it any good?
Octavarium is where it is AT! Such a good song! I havent heard the new album as of yet, but I heard its a let down, explaining why I didnt rush out and "purchase" it.
I have eccentric tastes, me thinks. Just some of what *I* consider classic:
bro love me some Dream Theater. Put on Scenes or Octavarium and just chill with a cigar, good times. Still haven't picked up the new album is it any good?
I haven't picked up Black Clouds.... yet, but I've heard it's one if their best efforts in years.
Wow, I am impressed with a lot of your selections, ones I probably had thought a handful of people knew about.
I saw Mushroomhead, Gogol Bordello to name a few!
I too have a W I D E variety of tastes depending on my mood, season, time of day, what I'm eating, whatt I'm smoking and who's with me... hehe.
I am a seventies child so my favorites are usually along the lines of:
Led Zeppelin
Eric Clapton
Blue Oyster Cult
Ted Nugent
Queen
Heart
Eagles
Yes
Rush
James Gang
Emerson, Lake and Palmer
From other avenues, I was a big industrial music fan. (A good friend of mine ran his own music store and label). I also like a dab of everything from Reggae to Country to Opera to Metal to Jazz to Pop to World to Punk to Rap.
Here's a few fav's in no particular order:
Peter Gabriel
Kate Bush
Nine Inch Nails
Tool
Bob Marley
Aerosmith
Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young
Lynyrd Skynyrd
Jimi Hendrix
Genesis
Papa Roach
AC/DC
Robin Trower
Frank Zappa
Stone Temple Pilots
Einstürzende Neubauten
Mindless Self Indulgence
The Beatles
My Life With The Thrill Kill Kult
Deep Forest
Enigma
David Allen Coe
Jethro Tull
Foreignor
Ozric Tentacles
Judas Priest
Black Sabbath
Hector Zazou
Zucchero
I am going to see Creed on Saturday. My wife won me some free tickets from the radio. My brother-in-law is coming up for the concert. We are going to the B&M to smoke some and then off to the show.
Wow, I am impressed with a lot of your selections, ones I probably had thought a handful of people knew about.
I saw Mushroomhead, Gogol Bordello to name a few!
I too have a W I D E variety of tastes depending on my mood, season, time of day, what I'm eating, whatt I'm smoking and who's with me... hehe.
I am a seventies child so my favorites are usually along the lines of:
Led Zeppelin
Eric Clapton
Blue Oyster Cult
Ted Nugent
Queen
Heart
Eagles
Yes
Rush
James Gang
Emerson, Lake and Palmer
From other avenues, I was a big industrial music fan. (A good friend of mine ran his own music store and label). I also like a dab of everything from Reggae to Country to Opera to Metal to Jazz to Pop to World to Punk to Rap.
Here's a few fav's in no particular order:
Peter Gabriel
Kate Bush
Nine Inch Nails
Tool
Bob Marley
Aerosmith
Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young
Lynyrd Skynyrd
Jimi Hendrix
Genesis
Papa Roach
AC/DC
Robin Trower
Frank Zappa
Stone Temple Pilots
Einstürzende Neubauten
Mindless Self Indulgence
The Beatles
My Life With The Thrill Kill Kult
Deep Forest
Enigma
David Allen Coe
Jethro Tull
Foreignor
Ozric Tentacles
Judas Priest
Black Sabbath
Hector Zazou
Zucchero
Ooops almost forgot THE WHO!
I like your style. Gabriel, Rush, ELP, Genesis, Foreigner. All great stuff.
I am going to see Creed on Saturday. My wife won me some free tickets from the radio. My brother-in-law is coming up for the concert. We are going to the B&M to smoke some and then off to the show.
Björk,
Imogen Heap,
Tool,
A Perfect Circle,
Puscifer,
Queen,
Sevendust,
Further Seems Forever,
Mos Def
Shad
Kansas
Mostly metal, non ghetto rap, trip-hop, and jazz.
Well, being a southern boy, I love my country and southern rock, but really like a ton of stuff, such as:
Rock 3 Doors Down AC/DC Another Black Day Audioslave Black Label Society Black Stone Cherry Chevelle Clapton Crossfade Dark New Day Disturbed Dry Cell Finger Eleven Guns N Roses In Flames Killswitch Engage Linkin Park Lynyrd Skynyrd Metallica Mudvayne Papa Roach Puddle of Mudd Ra Rage Against the Machine Saliva Seether Shinedown Staind Stereoside StoneSour Tantric Taproot Theory of a Deadman Trapt sorry, tired of formating
Country... Garth Brooks, David Lee Murphy, Dierks Bentley, Toby Keith, Kenny Chesney, Trent Tomlinson, Jason Aldean, Kyote Wylde, Josh Turner, Pat Greene, Alan Jackson, Alabama, John Michael Montgomery, etc A little more eccentric or unknown: Trivium, Atreyu, Dimmu Borgir, Soilwork, Fear Factory, Hatebreed, Soil, Downstait, Rains, Dethlok...
If there are any JAZZ fans out here I have some Jazz online. Just shoot me a PM with your title Jazz
I have a 600 GB collection.
All legal right? LOL
But of course. AFAIK. Most I have ripped from cd, some I got in trades and others are from D E L E T E D
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If there are any JAZZ fans out here I have some Jazz online. Just shoot me a PM with your title Jazz
I have a 600 GB collection.
All legal right? LOL
But of course. AFAIK. Most I have ripped from cd, some I got in trades and others are from D E L E T E D
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Poor guy, we hardly knew ye....Who wants his stuff? I call his humi!!!
If there are any JAZZ fans out here I have some Jazz online. Just shoot me a PM with your title Jazz
I have a 600 GB collection.
All legal right? LOL
But of course. AFAIK. Most I have ripped from cd, some I got in trades and others are from D E L E T E D
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Poor guy, we hardly knew ye....Who wants his stuff? I call his humi!!!
So I was listening to my Ipod today while I had a cigar and I realized something troubling. I only have a 2GB Ipod, and I only put 124 on it. Not a problem, most people would think, you can just add more. And this was my thought when I loaded it up before my plane ride out of the US heading for Afghanistan. Last time I deployed I had a personal lap top computer and could do anyhting I wanted with my music collection. This time though, my lap top was stolen before I left. I figured that I could just add music from my friends. All the guys I know with computers are at different bases now, and will be for the rest of the time I am here. So I am stuck, as I have been for the last three months, with only 124 songs on my Ipod. I go to the gym to work out twice a day, and like to listen to music before I go to bed. Sometimes I even listen to music when I smoke, as I did today. It has been only 24 hours since I realized that I wont be able to change my music and I have already listened to every song on my Ipod. These next 4 months might have just become a bit longer because I have an addiction to new music. FML :-(
I pretty much only listen to folk/viking/pirate metal these days. Here are the bands I listen to on a regular basis:
Folkearth
Falkenbach
Korpiklaani
Tyr
Ensifearum
Burzum
Verbal Deception
Svartsot
Amon Amarth
Elvenking
Dies Ire
Alestorm
Eluveitie
I do listen to other bands/genres, but just not on a regular basis.
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But even then you're just at the beginning. There's no point buying that kind of setup if you don't have a dedicated, purpose-built listening room for it. Then you've got the separate electrical mains to run it off of. And so forth.
You also have to have cable elevators to get those 9k speaker cables off the floor. An AC cord that is about 6 Gauge, a hospital grade receptecle and yes dedicated lines for the Digital and power - with ac power conditioners. What about the interconnects - can't skimp there.
I probably do have 20K in my tunes, but no analog which is noticeable better. But I just can't bring myself to pay another 30 bucks per album. I did skimp, so to speak, on the interconnects and speaker cable. I did however run seperate ac lines to the digital and power amps with hospital grade receptacles, but I did it myself, so the cost was probably about 100 bucks.
There is more than just the frequencies you can hear. There is a thing called sound stage depth and width. Does the music reside outside the speakers. Can you hear the individual instruments in space. Does the sax sound behind the speakers and to the left - is the guitar to the right and front... etc... Does the musical sound analytical or does it sound musical.
I purchased my last stuff about 3 years ago and have no regrets. It's just what you like and what's important to you. I do like it! - But we are in a world with mp3 files
I did see a guy's set up in his basement. He had 40 K strads and all the ancillary equipent. Glowing tubes, REL sub, 1 ft diamter speaker cables held up by small bridges...
AC/DC - Back in Black
Alice in Chains - Dirt
Andrew Lloyd Webber - The Phantom of the Opera
Beethoven - Symphony No. 9
Coldplay - Parachutes
Deftones - White Pony
DJ Micro - Tech-Mix Live
Dr. Dre - The Chronic
Dream Theater - Awake
Duke Ellington - Never No Lament
Enya - Watermark
Garth Brooks - Ropin' The Wind
Hatebreed - Perseverance
Hopesfall - Magnetic North
Jane's Addiction - Ritual De Lo Habitual
John Barry - Dances With Wolves Soundtrack
John Mayer - Continuum
Johnny Cash - At Folsom
Journey - Escape
Marvin Gaye - What's Going On
Megadeth - Rust in Peace
Metallica - Master of Puppets
Michael Jackson - Thriller
Mozart - Requiem
Notorious B.I.G. - Life After Death
Pantera - Vulgar Display of Power
Pearl Jam - Ten
Pink Floyd - The Dark Side of the Moon
Puccini - La bohème
Queensryche - Operation: Mindcrime
Rogers & Hammerstein - Carousel
Rush - Moving Pictures
Rush - 2112
Sarah McLachlan - Fumbling towards Escasy
Skid Row - Slave to the Grind
Slayer - Reign in Blood
Stone Temple Pilots - Core
Tori Amos - Little Earthquakes
U2 - The Joshua Tree
Usher - Confessions
Van Halen - MCMLXXXIV
Tool
A perfect circle
Metallica
Megadeath
Slayer
Sepultura
Slipknot
Mudvayne
Tom Petty
Pink Floyd
Led Zepplin
Cream
Ice T
Ice Cube
Dr Dre
ACDC
Motley Crue
Mushroomhead
Queensryche
And pretty much anything else thats heavy and fast and iam sure i left a ton more i left off.
bro love me some Dream Theater. Put on Scenes or Octavarium and just chill with a cigar, good times. Still haven't picked up the new album is it any good?
I saw Mushroomhead, Gogol Bordello to name a few!
I too have a W I D E variety of tastes depending on my mood, season, time of day, what I'm eating, whatt I'm smoking and who's with me... hehe.
I am a seventies child so my favorites are usually along the lines of:
Led Zeppelin
Eric Clapton
Blue Oyster Cult
Ted Nugent
Queen
Heart
Eagles
Yes
Rush
James Gang
Emerson, Lake and Palmer
From other avenues, I was a big industrial music fan. (A good friend of mine ran his own music store and label). I also like a dab of everything from Reggae to Country to Opera to Metal to Jazz to Pop to World to Punk to Rap.
Here's a few fav's in no particular order:
Peter Gabriel
Kate Bush
Nine Inch Nails
Tool
Bob Marley
Aerosmith
Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young
Lynyrd Skynyrd
Jimi Hendrix
Genesis
Papa Roach
AC/DC
Robin Trower
Frank Zappa
Stone Temple Pilots
Einstürzende Neubauten
Mindless Self Indulgence
The Beatles
My Life With The Thrill Kill Kult
Deep Forest
Enigma
David Allen Coe
Jethro Tull
Foreignor
Ozric Tentacles
Judas Priest
Black Sabbath
Hector Zazou
Zucchero
Ooops almost forgot THE WHO!
I have a 600 GB collection.
Rock
3 Doors Down
AC/DC
Another Black Day
Audioslave
Black Label Society
Black Stone Cherry
Chevelle
Clapton
Crossfade
Dark New Day
Disturbed
Dry Cell
Finger Eleven
Guns N Roses
In Flames
Killswitch Engage
Linkin Park
Lynyrd Skynyrd
Metallica
Mudvayne
Papa Roach
Puddle of Mudd
Ra
Rage Against the Machine
Saliva
Seether
Shinedown
Staind
Stereoside
StoneSour
Tantric
Taproot
Theory of a Deadman
Trapt
sorry, tired of formating
Country... Garth Brooks, David Lee Murphy, Dierks Bentley, Toby Keith, Kenny Chesney, Trent Tomlinson, Jason Aldean, Kyote Wylde, Josh Turner, Pat Greene, Alan Jackson, Alabama, John Michael Montgomery, etc
A little more eccentric or unknown: Trivium, Atreyu, Dimmu Borgir, Soilwork, Fear Factory, Hatebreed, Soil, Downstait, Rains, Dethlok...
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Folkearth
Falkenbach
Korpiklaani
Tyr
Ensifearum
Burzum
Verbal Deception
Svartsot
Amon Amarth
Elvenking
Dies Ire
Alestorm
Eluveitie
I do listen to other bands/genres, but just not on a regular basis.