Legal Q&A
The Sniper
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OK, so a cigar question for the BOTL, especially for those in legal & law enforcement fields... when I sent out the Karma Bomb recently, there was something wrong with the box I packed them in. The girl sold me a new box & told me she would put the original package in the new box, all well and good. I leave - and 3 minutes later I get a call from the girl, in a panic, because "You cant send alcohol TOBACCO or firearms thru the mail. Its a federal offense!!!"
This girl has got to be incorrect about this, right? PLEASE tell me I dont have to worry about the federales showing up on my doorstep because I commited the heinous crime of sending the gift of yummy cigar goodness to my friends. Am I rolling the dice every time I send out a trade, pass or bomb??? Yankee, I know you're a retired police chief... Alex Svenson, you should have the inside skinny on this too! Yoda kuzi, what does the Force tell you? Somebody let me know!!!
This girl has got to be incorrect about this, right? PLEASE tell me I dont have to worry about the federales showing up on my doorstep because I commited the heinous crime of sending the gift of yummy cigar goodness to my friends. Am I rolling the dice every time I send out a trade, pass or bomb??? Yankee, I know you're a retired police chief... Alex Svenson, you should have the inside skinny on this too! Yoda kuzi, what does the Force tell you? Somebody let me know!!!
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That said, I am curious, were you using USPS or a common carrier? Reason I ask is you referred to the person accepting the package as "the girl." Nothing wrong with that, I just think of a younger person by that description, the kind more likely to be working at Kinkos or UPS Store than a post office.
Anyhow, it was her mistake, not yours. I am curious, what was "wrong" with your original box?
As many of you know, the Prevent All Cigarette Trafficking Act of 2009 (PACT Act) went into effect today. This act prohibits the mailing of cigarettes, smokeless tobacco, RYO/MYO tobacco, etc. This was the worst possible news that we could have received as this means that we cannot serve our customers in the fashion that you have become accustomed to.
This week brought some great news as Federal district Judge Richard Arcara allowed for a temporary restraining order preventing the enforcement of the act. A hearing has been scheduled for July 7, 2010 in the United States District Court, Western District of New York.
^From an email where I used to buy skoal online when I dipped more than smoked and before I got back into cigars
I crack myself up!
that is what vinnie said when he blew me up with a beer bomb!!
its not illegal if you dont get caught.
The store was a Pack-N-Mail, which is the small town equivalent of a Kinko's or UPS Store. And you were spot-on... the girl in question WAS a young girl, college age. Absolute sweetheart who always does a good job whenever I go there - she was apparently just mis- or under-educated on this subject Im sure.
As for the problem with my box, it was the fact that I tried to re-use the USPS Flat-Rate box that my Snipers-Box-ending bomb came in, which didnt fly for whatever reason. When she said she would re-pack the box I expected her to just put the box I brought inside another, bigger box & add padding... not so much. She opened the original box & freaked.
She wasnt rude or an @ss about the situation, so no harm no foul. I will however be sure to stop back by armed with the info you all have provided me to make sure everyone who works there is properly educated. Thanks to all the BOTL who responded and gave ME some education.
Have a great weekend all!
Actually UPS updates more frequently than Fed Ex with actual scans. USPS & Fed EX use logical scans, not actual scans.
http://pe.usps.com/text/dmm300/601.htm#wp1065404
12.1.2
And if you want the section about tobacco products, it starts at 11.0
The girl was correct that you cannot reuse the priority mail flat rate boxes, or actually you can only use it for sending priority mail. However, what SHE did wrong (assuming this was going to be shipped via usps) was technically commit a fellony when she opened your package thereby interferring with the mail. If anyone has noticed at the post office, if something is wrong with your package or they are selling you a box a postal worker will typically hand you the new box and old and have you repackage yourself, it's not that they are lazy govt employees, they understand the law that they can't open or interfere with your mail!
I am sure the girl meant well and was trying to be helpful, but there is an ever worsening legal minefield growing out there!!!!
So my Wonderful State of Utah has recently had a tobacco tax increase, it has subsequentially put the oldest cigar store here in Utah out of business, RIP Jeanies Smoke Shop. What I'm wondering is how this will affect my online capabilities for purchasing cigars?
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