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p.aulmartinp.aulmartin Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 17
Hi everyone
I'm a new member. Not a huge cigar smoker, only smoke in lounges, maybe a dozen or so a year. I've been gradually working my way up from the very very mild stuff like Oliva Connecticut Reserve. I'm now finding that I like *some "medium-full" bodied cigars, but with minimal spice/pepper/hotness.
Here's the problem... my 2 current favorites are not that easy to find. I'm into the EP Carrillo La Historia, and the Esteban Carrares Chupa Cabra.
So, question... what's in the same league as these... medium-full, but not burn your tongue off... very popular every store has 'em???

Thanks!

Paul

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  • youngryan216youngryan216 Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 868
    Welcome to the forum, there are many great people here who can help you on your quest for great smokes.

    I would suggest Arturo Fuente Hemmingway in Classic or Signature size as a good medium bodied cigar with a great Cameroon wrapper. Just about every cigar store I have ever been to has a box of Hemmingways. It was the one that hooked me many years ago!

    Long ashes to you friend!
  • p.aulmartinp.aulmartin Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 17
    I've had the Hemingway. Not bad. Thinking back, I don't remember it being quite as smooth as the 2 I mentioned, but maybe I need to give it another try.

    youngryan216:
    Welcome to the forum, there are many great people here who can help you on your quest for great smokes.



    I would suggest Arturo Fuente Hemmingway in Classic or Signature size as a good medium bodied cigar with a great Cameroon wrapper. Just about every cigar store I have ever been to has a box of Hemmingways. It was the one that hooked me many years ago!



    Long ashes to you friend!
  • 90+ Irishman90+ Irishman Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 7,868
    Take a look at My Father Flor De Las Antilles or the regular My Father line. Most places have those and would fit the bill you are looking for. Don't let the lighter wrapper fool you they still have a bit of strength and tons of flavor and just a bit of pepper. I would also point you in the direction of the Tatuaje Red Label line or Padron Thousand Series (their base line) try the Maduros in any of their sizes.
  • Lee.mcglynnLee.mcglynn Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 5,228
    Without aging IMO this is impossible or atleast close to impossible. The stronger you go the more liegro is in the mix. Also it depends on what spice you really mean. Is it black pepper,white pepper or more nasally like a horse radish? Plus it really depends on your pallet! I don't think I've ever smoked either of the two you have said so really I can't recommend anything unless you really get into your likes and dislikes about certain blends.
  • p.aulmartinp.aulmartin Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 17
    hmmm, well all I know is that the 2 I cited really do the trick for me. In the description of the La Historia, it says "rich, roasted nuts, coffee, hints of black pepper, and dark cocoa and hints of creaminess." It's perfect for my pallet.

    Lee.mcglynn:
    Without aging IMO this is impossible or atleast close to impossible. The stronger you go the more liegro is in the mix. Also it depends on what spice you really mean. Is it black pepper,white pepper or more nasally like a horse radish? Plus it really depends on your pallet! I don't think I've ever smoked either of the two you have said so really I can't recommend anything unless you really get into your likes and dislikes about certain blends.
  • ChemnitzChemnitz Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 1,070
    You liked the Oliva Connie, have you tried the Olive Serie "V"? Most agree it's a great med-full smoke.

    Oh, and welcome to the forum! Stick around and learn something. Lotsa great people here.
  • D FreshD Fresh Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 558
    Chemnitz:
    You liked the Oliva Connie, have you tried the Olive Serie "V"? Most agree it's a great med-full smoke.

    Oh, and welcome to the forum! Stick around and learn something. Lotsa great people here.
    +1 to the Oliva Serie V. I would also try the Kristoff Britannia. Some more info would help though. Are you looking for an everyday smoke? Are you concerned with price? If you're only looking at smoking once a month as a way to really treat yourself and don't mind spending a little more that might change some suggestions. For example I think you might like the Padron 1964 maduro but I wouldn't consider that an everyday smoke for me.

    Also, welcome! This place has a wealth of knowledge and some of the best people you'll ever meet. They've helped me a ton the last few months so I hope you stick around!
  • MorganGeoMorganGeo Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 1,606
    Welcome aboard!
  • Bob LukenBob Luken Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 3,664
    p.aulmartin:
    Hi everyone I'm a new member. Not a huge cigar smoker, only smoke in lounges, maybe a dozen or so a year. I've been gradually working my way up from the very very mild stuff like Oliva Connecticut Reserve. I'm now finding that I like *some "medium-full" bodied cigars, but with minimal spice/pepper/hotness. Here's the problem... my 2 current favorites are not that easy to find. I'm into the EP Carrillo La Historia, and the Esteban Carrares Chupa Cabra. So, question... what's in the same league as these... medium-full, but not burn your tongue off... very popular every store has 'em??? Thanks! Paul
    Welcome Paul. I'm not a huge smoker either. I only smoke in lounges, or outdoors, or in my garage, or in my old truck, maybe just a few hundred a year. LOL I'm not going to even try to answer you question but instead, offer a suggestion from my perspective. I've only been serious about cigars for about four years now. I would suggest that you buy more of the ones you know you like. A full box or half a box each. You may not wish to have your own humidor but a humidor isn't even a necessity. You can store cigars using Boveda packets in zip-lock bags or plastic containers. That way you can continue your search for new favorites while knowing your old favorites are at hand. I suspect your tastes will change over time as well (seems like everyone's does) but, you'll probably wish to revisit you old favorites throughout your search for new favorites. .
  • kuzi16kuzi16 Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 14,471
    LFD Air Bender.
    just stay away from the chisel if you wanna keep it on the medium side. the chisel uses a higher priming leaf for the wrapper giving it a fuller body. its a solid smoke.

    i would also look at teh JdN Cabbinetta and room 101 Connecticut.



    this is more of a concept that an suggestion, but...
    try slowing your smoking pace.
    the slower you smoke the cooler the smoke will be, lessening much of the spice in many cigars. i dont like over the top spice much either and i found that at the pace i smoke spice is much less. for example, it takes me almost 2 hours to smoke a robusto, 2:30 for a toro. 1:45 for a corona gorda.

    you dont have to be that slow, thats just my style. but slow down and you will fint the complexities rather than the spice.
  • Puff_DougiePuff_Dougie Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 3,182
    Hi Paul, welcome to the forums! I prefer medium/full bodied cigars and a few of my favorites that, IMO, lean more toward the medium side would be...

    Oliva Serie V
    Ave Maria Imaculata
    LFD Airbender
    Alec Bradley American Century
    My Father Le Bijou
    Kristoff Maduro

    I think I heard that the next CCOM Forum Newsletter will feature some reviews of medium/full smokes. If you PM your mailing address, I can make sure you get a copy.

    Above all, have fun!
  • benhanksbenhanks Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 323
    Welcome Paul! Lots of great guys here with lots of knowledge. Stick around, you'll learn a lot!
  • blutattooblutattoo Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 1,100
    Can't believe Kuzi didn't mention AVO. I've always found most of their lines had minimal spice while having tons of complex flavors. Flor de las Antillas has little to no spice while offering a solid medium body. The Padron Anniversary series leans a little more full, but very smooth in my opinion. Most Davidoffs eschew that heavy spice, but they are pricey and a little harder to find in a B&M.

    Welcome to the forum.
  • Darktower007Darktower007 Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 2,122
    Welcome to the madness! Try Caldwell cigars especially the eastern standard for medium body goodness. Everyone I've had has been fantastic.
  • kswildcatkswildcat Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 73
    Welcome to the forum..
  • kuzi16kuzi16 Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 14,471
    blutattoo:
    Can't believe Kuzi didn't mention AVO.
    price point is a factor here. if you are willing to spend the coin then they are worth it but many find that the price is off-putting at times.


    but they are dropping the price a touch. should help.
  • The KidThe Kid Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 7,842
    Welcome p.aulmartin and Goodbye!!!!
    Watch out for Kuzi he'll put songs in your head that you wish stayed forgotten. Try Perdomo champagne and MOW virtue. if cost aint an issue go with Ashton cabinet or Don Diego Playboy.
  • kuzi16kuzi16 Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 14,471
    The Kid:
    Try Perdomo champagne
    yes.... for got that one
  • p.aulmartinp.aulmartin Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 17
    Took me a while, but I finally made it in to my favorite lounge today and had 2… the Flor De Las Antilles by My Father, and the Series V by Oliva. I smoked the My Father first. In the first inch I was tempted to throw in the towel, it was just too much for me….. but I've seen this before, so I kept going. It settled down to be a very flavorful smoke…. on the edge of where I'm at in taste right now, but *very enjoyable. Then later I had the Oliva Series V. It was definitely more flavorful than the connecticut reserves I've had…. but seemed milder than the Flor De Las Antilles. BOTH were quite nice!!

    PM

    90+ Irishman:
    Take a look at My Father Flor De Las Antilles or the regular My Father line. Most places have those and would fit the bill you are looking for. Don't let the lighter wrapper fool you they still have a bit of strength and tons of flavor and just a bit of pepper. I would also point you in the direction of the Tatuaje Red Label line or Padron Thousand Series (their base line) try the Maduros in any of their sizes.
  • Big''nBall''nBig''nBall''n Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 311
    Welcome I like the AVOs
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