Forum Blend Notes - Revist #1

Ken Light

Gray4lines

robbyras

Nice Ken! I think these guys are gonna need at least 3 months to be smokeable... these babies are FRESH! your experience seems to mirror my expectations of this one until it gets some rest... hopefully I can bury these in my humi and forget about them until September... but we'll see...

Ken Light

Thanks for the support guys! I was under the impression this was going to be a quicker process and we wouldn't want to sit on these 3 months before starting to figure them out. I'm definitely saving the rest for longer time points (and I'll post updates).

Gray4lines

I'll likely give mine a month or so... just long enough to acclimate. I'd like to try em "fresh" first, then see what happens. I'll probably space them out a lot and may hold onto the last one as long as I can (years and years and years).

beatnic

I agree with you Ken on the spiciness and woody flavors. And yes, there is the Ometepe filler which continued throughout. But I had a different feeling on the wrapper. Mine was not dry at all. It appeared dry, but the stick seemed to be packed rather tightly and held a good bit of moisture. I enjoyed the second half of the cigar more than the beginning. These need lots of rest.

Ken Light

beatnic:

I agree with you Ken on the spiciness and woody flavors. And yes, there is the Ometepe filler which continued throughout. But I had a different feeling on the wrapper. Mine was not dry at all. It appeared dry, but the stick seemed to be packed rather tightly and held a good bit of moisture. I enjoyed the second half of the cigar more than the beginning. These need lots of rest.

Maybe I didn't do a good enough job describing the dryness. I meant the feel, but both in the hand and on the lips. I don't think it was packed loosely or was dried out or anything, I meant dry as in not at all oily I guess.

kuzi16

Ken Light

Gray4lines

Kuz did say "pulpy mouthfeel" on the other thread. That sounds dry to me. Will have to see when I try one!

Ken Light

Gray4lines

beatnic

I see what you mean, Ken.

kuzi16

yeah... pulpy like a texture of the smoke itself.

curtpick

kuzi16

madurofan

curtpick

Ken Light

madurofan

kuzi16

madurofan:

Ha good point. It wasn't the review thankfully

you always have been the one to read a review and immediately ignore it. you should do what i do: not even read the review.

madurofan

kuzi16

Alex Svenson

I was curious where the feedback would start poping up. Its funny because before AJ shipped these he told me he didn't thing the blend was up to snuff. I spent hours explaining it was okay to ship because these are a first round and part of the process. The project by nature is tough because you have all cheifs and no indians LOL. That said, the idea is to get the fundamentals down and start with something and change from there. It can be as simple as priming and proportion changes and range all the way to complete changes in composition but you dont know until you get started. I love these projects because while it is exciting to be part of the process, it really also shows how much of an art the process is. Every time I see negative comments about someones blend, I think about this type of stuff and think people dont realize what goes into making a premium cigar and the years it takes to develop a blend let alone the decades it takes to understand how things work together conceptionaly. I have been watching a lot of this show "Chopped" on the food network and have fallen in love with it. In fact I have thought about taking the same concept and try to apply it to young, aspiring blenders instad of aspiring chefs and post it on you tube. I realize I am deviating so back to topic, this is simply phase one of what may be a longer process and that is okay. Lets collect some feedback and come up with some revisions. It may take a long time to get things the way they want them and that "is okay" because that is the way most blenders operate and I think it adds to the experience. The idea is to create an excellent cigar and it wont happen overnight. As we get further along we will start to involve the expertise of some folks like AJ, Nestor Plasencia, and other notable blenders who have made this their lifes work to help us in the process. So lets hear the feedback!!!

Poker Slob

Thank you Alex for YOUR feedback on this isue. Being a part of this and watching "the blend" go through it's trial and tweeking process will be very interesting, and educational. Be sure to thank A.J. from us for this very rare opportunity.

ShotgunJohn

kuzi16

Alex Svenson:

I was curious where the feedback would start poping up. Its funny because before AJ shipped these he told me he didn't thing the blend was up to snuff. I spent hours explaining it was okay to ship because these are a first round and part of the process. The project by nature is tough because you have all cheifs and no indians LOL. That said, the idea is to get the fundamentals down and start with something and change from there. It can be as simple as priming and proportion changes and range all the way to complete changes in composition but you dont know until you get started. I love these projects because while it is exciting to be part of the process, it really also shows how much of an art the process is. Every time I see negative comments about someones blend, I think about this type of stuff and think people dont realize what goes into making a premium cigar and the years it takes to develop a blend let alone the decades it takes to understand how things work together conceptionaly. I have been watching a lot of this show "Chopped" on the food network and have fallen in love with it. In fact I have thought about taking the same concept and try to apply it to young, aspiring blenders instad of aspiring chefs and post it on you tube. I realize I am deviating so back to topic, this is simply phase one of what may be a longer process and that is okay. Lets collect some feedback and come up with some revisions. It may take a long time to get things the way they want them and that "is okay" because that is the way most blenders operate and I think it adds to the experience. The idea is to create an excellent cigar and it wont happen overnight. As we get further along we will start to involve the expertise of some folks like AJ, Nestor Plasencia, and other notable blenders who have made this their lifes work to help us in the process. So lets hear the feedback!!!

ive had the opportunity to blend a cigar three times. each time it was a one shot deal. each time i would have changed something in it after i smoked one.

Ken Light

Alex Svenson:

I was curious where the feedback would start poping up. Its funny because before AJ shipped these he told me he didn't thing the blend was up to snuff. I spent hours explaining it was okay to ship because these are a first round and part of the process. The project by nature is tough because you have all cheifs and no indians LOL. That said, the idea is to get the fundamentals down and start with something and change from there. It can be as simple as priming and proportion changes and range all the way to complete changes in composition but you dont know until you get started. I love these projects because while it is exciting to be part of the process, it really also shows how much of an art the process is. Every time I see negative comments about someones blend, I think about this type of stuff and think people dont realize what goes into making a premium cigar and the years it takes to develop a blend let alone the decades it takes to understand how things work together conceptionaly. I have been watching a lot of this show "Chopped" on the food network and have fallen in love with it. In fact I have thought about taking the same concept and try to apply it to young, aspiring blenders instad of aspiring chefs and post it on you tube. I realize I am deviating so back to topic, this is simply phase one of what may be a longer process and that is okay. Lets collect some feedback and come up with some revisions. It may take a long time to get things the way they want them and that "is okay" because that is the way most blenders operate and I think it adds to the experience. The idea is to create an excellent cigar and it wont happen overnight. As we get further along we will start to involve the expertise of some folks like AJ, Nestor Plasencia, and other notable blenders who have made this their lifes work to help us in the process. So lets hear the feedback!!!

I'm addicted to chopped too! Funny, I thought of doing it with scientists....anyway, so we shouldn't be waiting 3 months on these or is that ok? Any idea when we should plan for deciding on what to tweak in round 2?

Vulchor

Thank you Cigar.com for selling us a blend, which the man who made them stated was "not up to snuff"..............Lolllllllll, tongue in cheek----mostly. At least its honest though.

Ken Light

Vulchor:

Thank you Cigar.com for selling us a blend, which the man who made them stated was "not up to snuff"..............Lolllllllll, tongue in cheek----mostly. At least its honest though.

That information was made public prior to taking orders. Anyway, I looked at the purchase more as the price of participation than buying the sticks...

JHewey

I smoked one last night. I agree with Ken's review of it. It wasn't bad but not great and am looking forward to the process getting it right.