Tonights debate
marineatbn03
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As a Republican, I have to admit that Romney is making himself look like a douche, and the POTUS is doing much better. Niether really impress me but it is becoming a very embarrassing debate.
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It makes me sick to my stomach.
It comes down to this for me: Do I want my money stolen to give to the poor, including illegals, or stolen and given to the uber rich in the form of bailouts and sweetheart contracts? It makes no difference to me what color tights Robin Hood is wearing as he aims his bow at me. The end result is the same - I've been robbed.
Either way, I will be hurt further, and someone else will be reaping the benefits of my hard work and foresight.
With the "vetting" process for candidates what it is (limited to multi-millionaires who have given the most backdoor favors out to the largest group of undeserving recipients), we are, unfortunately stuck with some of the most disingenuous, politically leveraged politicians ever assembled.
Roll the dice and be done with it.
"No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character, or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for. Today we mourn four more Americans who represent the very best of the United States of America. We will not waver in our commitment to see that justice is done for this terrible act. And make no mistake, justice will be done".
So for him or Candy or anyone else to say he said it was a "Terrorist Attack" is just plan wrong and misleading. It doesn't matter to me if you like Obama or dislike him what matters is that the same standard that many hold Romeny to need to hold the President to that same standard
That being said, it is right to point issues in policy, and more so when he misleads the American people, whether intentionally or not. It pissed me off when Bush did it, and it pisses me off now. Any way you slice it, Obama did initially blame the embassy attack and deaths on rioters reacting to an anti-Islam movie. Heck, JDH and I had a week long argument on whether the maker of the movie should be held accountable for the deaths because of it. I even understand this. Intelligence can be wrong, info can be misunderstood, and sometimes speaking from emotion can lead to speaking beyond your knowledge. What bothers me is now a seeming attempt to rewrite events to say they maintained it was a planned terrorist attack from the start. Own up to your mistake, your mis-speak, whether you meant it or not. Bush did the same BS with the WMD issue and now Obama is doing the same thing.
What is my point here? Romney is right to point out where Obama's policies have failed, and where he has gone wrong. But being disrespectful while doing is not only bad for US politics, it is bad for the USA as a whole.
"This is not about the President of the US, or the American Government, or the American people - they are not at fault here, and have done nothing wrong regarding this incident.
This is about a group of political / religious extremists who have deliberately incited another group of political / religious extremists, and the former put the USA squarely in the middle, for purely political reasons, I believe. This kind of behavior would make it tough for ANY sitting President just a few months out from an election.
If you love your country, I think the best thing to do is to support your country in time like this, not find fault with the President for something he didn't do."
I think your adoration for the man is clouding your judgement.
The makers of the film did nobody any favors. They incited others to violence, causing the deaths of innocents, and they damaged the good reputation of the USA. This film is not an expression of Christian thought, but it will damage the reputation of the Christian religion in the eyes of Muslims all over the world."
And the president and his cabinet perpetuated that sentiment. How evil! He, sir, should be tried for treason.
The fact of the matter is that the film DID incite violence across the Muslim world, and a group of terrorists in Lybia took advantage of a situation and attacked our embassy and killed American citizens. It is called the "fog of war", when the events that are unfolding are obscured and cannot be seen clearly. We are at war with Al Queida. This President has, and continues to kill them wherever they are, this time they hit us back, while using the opportunity of civil unrest caused by that film as cover for their attack.
I am not a hypocrite. I have not contradicted myself, nor have I attacked the character of anyone on this forum. It is unfortunate that some people have to attempt to destroy the reputation or character of anyone who does not agree with their political views. Well, I don't play that game. You may attempt to provoke anger by hurling insults, but that behavior is not a reflection on me, it is a reflection on you.