Lies, lies and more lies

beatnic

http://www.infowars.com/ap-declared-obama-kenyan-born/

Streater

Who do we trust? The politicians, media or Fox News? It's all so confusing! I don't know what to believe! **note sarcasm**

*YAWN. I think I'll go light up a Cohiba in a public library. I hope your day gets better.

jlmarta

beatnic:

http://www.infowars.com/ap-declared-obama-kenyan-born/

So, are you saying the article the link takes you to is all lies or that all we are getting from the Obama camp is nothing but lies? Clarify, please.

stephen_hannibal

Streater:

Who do we trust? The politicians, media or Fox News? It's all so confusing! I don't know what to believe! **note sarcasm**

*YAWN. I think I'll go light up a Cohiba in a public library. I hope your day gets better.

This a major who cares moment.

Knoxca1

Streater:

Who do we trust? The politicians, media or Fox News? It's all so confusing! I don't know what to believe! **note sarcasm**

*YAWN. I think I'll go light up a Cohiba in a public library. I hope your day gets better.

Foxnews is not the media?

y2pascoe

From the "about Alex Jones" section of the website:

A 2011 Rolling Stone article described Jones as “a giant in America’s conspiracy subculture,” with a subsequent in-depth profile adding that he made Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh, “sound like tea-sipping NPR hosts on Zoloft.”

Right. So all of this has got to be credible.

beatnic

jlmarta:

beatnic:

http://www.infowars.com/ap-declared-obama-kenyan-born/

So, are you saying the article the link takes you to is all lies or that all we are getting from the Obama camp is nothing but lies? Clarify, please.

I was just putting it up for conversation. As to what the lies are, I'll only say that I believe that man-made Global Warming is a complete hoax.
Saying that "everybody believes he was born in Hawaii", is like saying that the "consensus among scientists" is that there is man-made global warming. Neither one of the statements contain any proof. I'm just saying. I'm a scientist and DEMAND proof before I believe. And neither one of these has been proven.
many would just call me a birther and a denier, but not a one has proven their position. Bring it on.

beatnic

y2pascoe:

From the "about Alex Jones" section of the website:

A 2011 Rolling Stone article described Jones as “a giant in America’s conspiracy subculture,” with a subsequent in-depth profile adding that he made Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh, “sound like tea-sipping NPR hosts on Zoloft.”

Right. So all of this has got to be credible.

Here are more messengers that you are also welcome to trash http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/05/17/The-Vetting-Barack-Obama-Literary-Agent-1991-Born-in-Kenya-Raised-Indonesia-Hawaii


and http://www.wnd.com/2012/05/shocker-obama-was-still-kenyan-born-in-2003/

jlmarta

beatnic:

y2pascoe:

From the "about Alex Jones" section of the website:

A 2011 Rolling Stone article described Jones as “a giant in America’s conspiracy subculture,” with a subsequent in-depth profile adding that he made Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh, “sound like tea-sipping NPR hosts on Zoloft.”

Right. So all of this has got to be credible.

Here are more messengers that you are also welcome to trash http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/05/17/The-Vetting-Barack-Obama-Literary-Agent-1991-Born-in-Kenya-Raised-Indonesia-Hawaii


and http://www.wnd.com/2012/05/shocker-obama-was-still-kenyan-born-in-2003/

Ah, so. Just trying to rouse the rabble, eh? :-). Not today, I think. I'm not in the mood. Have a good one.......

y2pascoe

beatnic:

y2pascoe:

From the "about Alex Jones" section of the website:

A 2011 Rolling Stone article described Jones as “a giant in America’s conspiracy subculture,” with a subsequent in-depth profile adding that he made Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh, “sound like tea-sipping NPR hosts on Zoloft.”

Right. So all of this has got to be credible.

Here are more messengers that you are also welcome to trash http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/05/17/The-Vetting-Barack-Obama-Literary-Agent-1991-Born-in-Kenya-Raised-Indonesia-Hawaii


and http://www.wnd.com/2012/05/shocker-obama-was-still-kenyan-born-in-2003/

I don't by into Right Wing conspiracists any more than I bought into the Left Wing conspiracists of the last decade. All B.S. to me. Frankly I find this obsession with trying to prove the President was born outside of the U.S. to be a little counter-productive.

How 'bout some bi-partisan cooperation?

jgibv

jlmarta:

beatnic:

y2pascoe:

From the "about Alex Jones" section of the website:

A 2011 Rolling Stone article described Jones as “a giant in America’s conspiracy subculture,” with a subsequent in-depth profile adding that he made Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh, “sound like tea-sipping NPR hosts on Zoloft.”

Right. So all of this has got to be credible.

Here are more messengers that you are also welcome to trash http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/05/17/The-Vetting-Barack-Obama-Literary-Agent-1991-Born-in-Kenya-Raised-Indonesia-Hawaii


and http://www.wnd.com/2012/05/shocker-obama-was-still-kenyan-born-in-2003/

Ah, so. Just trying to rouse the rabble, eh? :-). Not today, I think. I'm not in the mood. Have a good one.......

+1....

Can't get the links to open on my mobile browser but will read them later....
And from what I gather from reading the replys on this thread, are you saying that you do not believe Obama is a US born citizen? .... And.... You don't believe that human processes are contributing to global warming???
Like I said, I can't open the links so please tell me if I've misinterpreted something?

beatnic

First of all, the earth isn't warming. Look into the geologic record. We've been much warmer in the past. I'm just asking for someone to give me the formula, or scientific model where it proves that Co2 emissions into the atmosphere cause the atmosphere to increase in temperature. That is the basis for the entire global warming theory. I haven't seen it. I've seen experiments in a lab where the opposite was proved. As to humans causing local environmental problems, I would agree that it has happened and still happens in many places. But, GLOBAL WARMING!? No. Solar flares are more easily measured to do that. Please don't offer me articles from the IPPC or other UN sponsored research firms. As I said, I'm a scientist, and can't believe anything until it is PROVEN.

As to BELIEVING if Obama is a natural born US citizen,? Hell that shouldn't even be left to my belief. He should be able to prove it in a second. He has not offered any proof.

jgibv

Thanks for clarifying, beatnic.