NFL and Peyton Manning
gmill880
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Now that we have had the combine and all the attention on Andrew Luck and RG3 . What do the football fans on here think will happen with Peyton Manning and the Colts since they have the first pick ? As a true blue Colts fan I love Manning and what he did for the Colts . He took a team that was a longshot to make the playoffs for about the last decade before he was drafted and made them consistant superbowl contenders . All that being what it is , its still a business , and your only as good as your last season or contribution , h*ll I found out just how true that is a couple weeks ago myself .
Do they pay the 28,000,000 bonus on Mar 8th ? Do they restructure his contract and keep him ? Do they let him walk ? Is there a compromise somewhere that makes everyone happy or is it just the sad end in Indy of a brilliant career and solely a business decision ? I have my own opinion but would like to hear from the NFL gurus on the forum .
Do they pay the 28,000,000 bonus on Mar 8th ? Do they restructure his contract and keep him ? Do they let him walk ? Is there a compromise somewhere that makes everyone happy or is it just the sad end in Indy of a brilliant career and solely a business decision ? I have my own opinion but would like to hear from the NFL gurus on the forum .
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Sorry about your teams luck, but it seems the spectacle is coming to an end. I will also be sad when it does because I have really enjoyed watching all these people play together!
That being said, I don't envy the position their in, because of the respect that I have for Manning. Last year you paid the guy 25M to hold a clip board and clap, this year there's no way you can pay him 28M under any circumstance, let along coming back from a neck injury. Backloaded contracts are stupid and this is exactly why, it forces teams into decisions that they arne't ready to make. Even if he was healthy is it smart business to pay one guy 25% of the salary cap? not really.
Manning is a reasonable guy, and has made his $$ from the colts and from the advertising, and no one is going to pay him that $$. So what I'd do is sit him down and tell him where your at. There's no way he's getting 28M from anyone, but you want you back for 3 yrs 20M with an 8M bonus, so he can retire a colt, still get some bonus and help them usher in the next generation with class. If he takes it is up to him but its a good move.
Irsay should stop tweeting though. its making the team look bad.
Redskins make the playoffs for the 2-3 years Manning plays before he retires.
Which is more than I can say for the Indy Dolts. Who draft Andrew Luck. Who becomes the next David Carr.
Which is EXACTLY what the Dolts deserve for beating my Bears in their last Super Bowl appearance. GMill is arrested for blasting Jim Irsay in the face with a shotgun after watching the next 10 years of Indy Dolts futility.
GO BEARS!!!
Hahaha Glen . Lets change just one little thing in your post .
After watching 10 years of Indy Dolts futility Gmill is arrested in Jamaica for starting the CFLL . Carribean Female Lingerie League .
Personally, I'd take RGIII first because that guy is just as smart and will be phenominal, but Luck will be just fine as well.
Notice the "would be foolish" in my statement above. I dont think the Irsay will miss an opportunity to step on his pecker. :-)
You're probably going to need league officials... let me know when you're getting ready to make the move so I can dust off my resume. :-)
Remember no one will pay manning anywhere near the bonus he's due. So playing for less money is a 100% probability for him next year. In my opinion, the colts f'ed up if they don't have both those guys on the roster on opening day. I know the manning situation takes two, but you have to try to restructure and bring him back at a reasonable rate. Luck is a rookie who will suck for 1-3 years guaranteed, and you can mess up a QB if he sucks too bad out of the gate. I know its not always black and white but think about the Alex Smith Aaron Rodgers debate. The packers did it right while SF didn't. Why not restructure Manning and let him play it out while letting luck learn from one of the best? Thats the best case scenario, the fans are happy, manning gets to retire at 37 playing all 15 years with the same team, Luck gets groomed slowly and takes over when he's ready. and the team will be competitive during the rebuilding process.
Supposedly , the Colts can't watch his workouts because of the new league contract . I do think Peyton wants to come back as a Colt . I think that is why the YouTube video of him throwing showed up a few days ago . I'm sure it was released by Mannings camp , to show Irsay and the coaches he was healing well and throwing pretty dang good by watching the video .
I really believe Peyton will play at a high level for another 5 years . Some may disagree . I don't think you can or would want to set a kid like Luck or Griffin III for more than one year tops . That means IF , and thats a mighty BIG IF , Peyton stays , I think they trade the first pick for more draft picks .
As a Colts fan since the Baltimore days and a huge Manning fan , there is no easy answer . If they keep him and win 2 Superbowls in the next 5 years there will be the " I told you so's " . If that was a guarantee for 2 SB in 5 years I would take that with Manning . However if he is re-injured or only plays 2-3 more years or is not the old Peyton then the naysayers will be clamoring for Irsays head for mortgaging the franchise . (Yeah I think if Peyton does come back it will be a re-negotiated contract cap friendly ) If only 'ol Jimmy Boy Irsay was as gifted a psychic as he is a tweeter this would all have already been handled LOL !
At the very least it is going to be entertaining for sure .
Man , ENFIDL , you know the funny thing ? Everytime I turn on ESPN or Sportscenter , or pull up their website I get butterflys in my stomach like a schoolboy , almost like I feel like its going to effect ME financially !
I get what your saying and could see someone using that line of thinking. The irony if Manning does think that way is that pride, on Mannings part, would be bad for both player and organization. I mean he'll be good no matter where he plays but I'm don't think you can just pick up the player and drop him into another situation, like the jets, and expect the same results.
Even though I hate the colts, I'd like to see them resolve it so that he does restructure to stay there. More than anything though, I want to see MUCH less of Jim Irsay on TV.
Thanks bro ... Seems I heard that Manning and Irsay are flying back from Florida to Indy tonight on Irsays jet . Maybe they have reached an agreemant already to re-structure . I think I'm gonna be sick !!!