Undercrown

I don't think I like them. I've had two toros and neither one really sat well with me. I've enjoyed plenty of fuller bodied smokes, but the flavor just seems to be too much. Am I alone on this?

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wwhwang

Not quite sure what you mean. What do you mean by the flavor being too much?

Grazuh

Just seems overwhelming. Not quite sure how else to describe it.

docbp87

I don't think they are nearly as good as the best examples of Ligas I've had, and in my opinion they kind of seem like a diluted Liga No. 9, but I have had a few good experiences with them. I just think I'd pay an extra buck or whatever the price difference is for a Liga, rather than an Undercrown. Once the !Viva! hits, I'll give that a shot though.

BigT06

I love them. Easily one of my fav smokes. I like the no.9 more, but they are twice the price and 10x as hard to find (at least in my area)... so I will happily smoke Undercrowns 3-5 times a week until I run out of them, and/or the money to restock them. lol

catfishbluezz

You're not alone, but I smoked my first a week after I got it. I enjoyed the construction and draw immensly, and I figure a littel rest goes a long way. I just had a RP sun grown tonight that was fantastic, yet the first one I had 3 months ago was horrible from the same batch. To each his own, but I say let one rest. My guess is the 2nd one, and the 3rd from Ocho, will kill it...and I'll be buying a box.

Messick

I would have to say the under crown is one of my favorite smokes. Great flavor and burn. I like the flavor and I think it has a different taste then the ligas

Roberto99

The Undercrown I tried I thought was pretty good. I remember thinking I could see why so many people were digging the flavor here. For me personally however I sort of agree with what doc is saying here and am waiting until this spring or summer to try the other one I have, to see if the flavor gets richer.

OchoZacho

I love them! To me they're great ROTT and will probably age well. Flavor, burn, strength - near perfection. My last experience with a no.9 was a bad one. Plugged and unsmokeable. I will buy these over the no.9 for the price any day!

Toombes

Got one in the humi, but gonna let it sit for another month or so regardless of the temptation. I've heard good and bad about them, but that's the price we pay for the innumerable variations in hand-rolled smokes...

Direwolf

I've enjoyed everyone I' had.

laker1963

MVW67

laker1963:
+1

zeebra

docbp87:
I don't think they are nearly as good as the best examples of Ligas I've had, and in my opinion they kind of seem like a diluted Liga No. 9, but I have had a few good experiences with them. I just think I'd pay an extra buck or whatever the price difference is for a Liga, rather than an Undercrown. Once the !Viva! hits, I'll give that a shot though.

+1. I'd rather smoke the No9 any day out the week for an extra buck or two. Good thing I stocked up on my No9's!

bigharpoon

I think they're good but not great. I like the flavors but they aren't like 'WOW' and all the ones I've had so far seem a little too fresh, I'm letting the remaining ones rest for a while and see if the flavors meld together a little more.

docbp87

Also FWIW, the new T-52 stock that has hit shelves recently, is some of the best ever, according to SS.

djbeenie

Grazuh:
I don't think I like them. I've had two toros and neither one really sat well with me. I've enjoyed plenty of fuller bodied smokes, but the flavor just seems to be too much. Am I alone on this?

I agree, I didn't like it one bit. I got about a quarter way down and had to put it out. Disappointing.

laker1963

djbeenie:
Grazuh:
I don't think I like them. I've had two toros and neither one really sat well with me. I've enjoyed plenty of fuller bodied smokes, but the flavor just seems to be too much. Am I alone on this?
I agree, I didn't like it one bit. I got about a quarter way down and had to put it out. Disappointing.

Huh. I really liked the Undercrowns. I tried the Liga Privada No. 9's and I didn't like THEM at all. That is why this is such a KEWL hobby. Everyone can get something totaly unique out of it.

beatnic

The T52 has the best blend. And I like the Dirty Rat. Don't really care for No.9 blend, feral or T40. And the Undercrown was just plain bad. IMO.

Direwolf

beatnic:
The T52 has the best blend. And I like the Dirty Rat. Don't really care for No.9 blend, feral or T40. And the Undercrown was just plain bad. IMO.

Only had the t9 and undercrown. Thought both were really good. What do you not like about each?

JDH

To be honest, I think they are a very well made medium-full bodied cigar, but I like the flavor profile in the MOW PA much better, and they don't even come close to the San Lotano habano or the Oval. There's an awful lot of competition in that price range and flavor profile, and I can take or leave the Undercrown. I'll burn 'em if I've got 'em, and I'll probably pick up a few now and again, but there are others that I'll always prefer over these.

beatnic

Direwolf:
beatnic:
The T52 has the best blend. And I like the Dirty Rat. Don't really care for No.9 blend, feral or T40. And the Undercrown was just plain bad. IMO.
Only had the t9 and undercrown. Thought both were really good. What do you not like about each?

It seems that the strength/flavor ratio is just a tad to high for me. Love the bellowing smoke, but the flavor of the filler is overshadowed by the spice of the wrapper. JMO. Although I don't turn them down. The Undercrown just has an odd flavor that I can't get over.

Bombay

Beatnic, if you situation is that you have multiples of the undercrown and dont want them I am willing to trade. Pm incoming.

Vulchor

I think they are ok.....but i am truly turned off (not to a point of not smoking, just kind of a "holy $hit moment) by the amount of smoke this thing gives off. Ive smoked 3 cigars that dont give off as much as this stick does.

jj20030

Vulchor:
I think they are ok.....but i am truly turned off (not to a point of not smoking, just kind of a "holy $hit moment) by the amount of smoke this thing gives off. Ive smoked 3 cigars that dont give off as much as this stick does.

you could send smoke signals with the feral,lol

dowjr1

Had my first recently and flavor was good for first inch. Then flavor and smoke cut in half. Tapped the ash and sure enough a nice hole right down the middle. It never recovered. But it was the first of a 10 pack so I am willing to try it again for sure as the flavor initially was tasty.

BigT06

dowjr1:
Had my first recently and flavor was good for first inch. Then flavor and smoke cut in half. Tapped the ash and sure enough a nice hole right down the middle. It never recovered. But it was the first of a 10 pack so I am willing to try it again for sure as the flavor initially was tasty.

if you try another and don't like it, I'll trade em off your hands....

dowjr1

Sure bro no problem. I am open to another one but not a favorite stick for me or anything like that. I have a full box of Liga 9 Toros so I might just make sure to knock those out first.

kingdavid5

I like them I usually smoke the robustos and they've all been pretty good smokes I haven't tried the T9 yet which I will probably try this week

Gray4lines

dowjr1:
Had my first recently and flavor was good for first inch. Then flavor and smoke cut in half. Tapped the ash and sure enough a nice hole right down the middle. It never recovered. But it was the first of a 10 pack so I am willing to try it again for sure as the flavor initially was tasty.

this has happened to me in both I've smoked. Tons of resting smoke, bit when I draw, just hot air.... it gets past this point and does ok the rest of the way down. Is this because its too moist or oily? The second I had in a case all day, so I figured it'd be dry.

beatnic

too much ligero in the filler!