I am sooooo tempted by the cover deal in the latest issue. Fantastic deal.
me too!
Haha! Someone talk me down. The wife is going to kill me if I buy any more cigars...
Just buy them and destroy all the evidence lol. I buy singles because the gf can not decipher whats new and what isnt! lol
I'm pretty sneaky about it sometimes, and thankfully it's never been a point of contention, but she watches the bank account pretty closely and likes to ask why I just spend *enter large number of dollars here* on cigars. Good girl. She has me on a pretty long leash.
Just buy em. You won't regret it. Its an awesome deal. Then take her to dinner, and while at dinner, tell her how excited you are about your new order coming in... she won't want to ruin the moment, so she'll just go along with it... works every time! lol
I am curious. Really good price, and A.J. has been known to get all of my money. But-he is putting out tons of new brands, sooner or later he might not make a great cigar.
I sure hope this does not turn out to be the case. I am a huge fan of what I have tried so far. The MoW lines especially. I am looking forward to getting home and checking out the new ccom mag though.
i was about to agree with you guys but alex's post made me remember something about factories
Alex Svenson:
He had some off color habano ecuador wrapper and excess fillers he needed to use so we came up with this little brand.
many of these high end factories buy the tobacco from outside sources; and even if they grow their own tobacco there are many leaves from these sources that isnt up to par for the super premiums we all gush about. what happens to all this tobacco?
off brands. cheaper brands. bundles. yes, RP has a ton of brands. and many of you all like a small handful of them. usually the ones that people really love are the higher ends of them. lets just say that RP has to make 10 lines of key cigars. to be able to make enough of those 10 lines he has to buy enough tobacco to make 50+ lines of cigars so that after processing, sorting, and quality control thre will be enough left over. so... what do you do with that extra tobacco? reblend it with other leftover tobacco and make another line. it really is the only choice if you dont want to waste tobacco or money. every factory does it. From Davidoff, to AJ Fernandez, to Oliva, to RP. every factory has the cheaper cigars that the hard core people on boards like this tend to shy away from.
so yes he has put out a ton of cheaper brands, but when you think about it, what good high end cigars has he put out? im sure there is a ton of tobacco out there that AJ just has laying around.
^this
So this all makes sense and is great info btw, thanks for posting Alex and Kuzi. But given all that, what makes them fresh rolled?
I could be mistaken but didn't another company put out a freshrolled cigar where they shipped right after rolling, and before any final aging? I think they recomended putting them to sleep for 3-6 months if you don't dig the fresh rolled taste. Again I'm struggling to use the forum search function but I beleive either Alex or Kuzi posted something in an aging thread where the general topic was that if you smoke a cigar within 6 weeks of rolling it has that fresh taste which some people really enjoy, yet few actually get to because most cigars are aged well beyond that prior to shipping, and its called something but I forget the term. After that 6 week period a cigar may get weird until ~6 month mark which is why most premiums are aged at least that long at the factory after rolling but prior to shipping.
From the description it sounds like these are shipped right after rolling in order to further keep the costs down. This might be a way to truly taste a freshly rolled cigar which is something that we don't often get the opportunity to do. Is this the same type of thing? If so thats kind of cool. I haven't gotten the latest catalog yet, it usualy comes a few days later, so manybe its all talked about in there.
Is thinking to himself, can C.COM actually ship so it gets to me at a certain DAY? I Wanna order but don't want the mailman ringing the bell when the woman's home, I just wanna get this stuff and put it to sleep so NO ONE is the wiser!!!
Dude, just get to know your mailman. My mailman is actually a maillady and she treats me sooooo well. If I'm home she puts Ccom packages in the seat of my truck. If I'm not home she puts them in my boat. Best maillady EVER!!! She rocks!!! (I also have the benefit of living in a town of about 300 people)
Anybody else notice that our very own ALIENMISPRINT made the magazine? On the first page in the feedback / customer comments / feedback section or whatever the he11 you call it - Tony from Fort Polk LA, big as life!
Now if we could get an actual forum BOTL in the winners circle for the Monthly CCom Giveaway...
So this all makes sense and is great info btw, thanks for posting Alex and Kuzi. But given all that, what makes them fresh rolled?
I could be mistaken but didn't another company put out a freshrolled cigar where they shipped right after rolling, and before any final aging? I think they recomended putting them to sleep for 3-6 months if you don't dig the fresh rolled taste.
Again I'm struggling to use the forum search function but I beleive either Alex or Kuzi posted something in an aging thread where the general topic was that if you smoke a cigar within 6 weeks of rolling it has that fresh taste which some people really enjoy, yet few actually get to because most cigars are aged well beyond that prior to shipping, and its called something but I forget the term. After that 6 week period a cigar may get weird until ~6 month mark which is why most premiums are aged at least that long at the factory after rolling but prior to shipping.
From the description it sounds like these are shipped right after rolling in order to further keep the costs down. This might be a way to truly taste a freshly rolled cigar which is something that we don't often get the opportunity to do. Is this the same type of thing? If so thats kind of cool. I haven't gotten the latest catalog yet, it usualy comes a few days later, so manybe its all talked about in there.
from what i gather, they roll them, throw a label on em and shove em in a box destined for your house. i think that the time table may be different, but what you said is generally true.
under "normal" conditions they roll the cigar and throw it in the aging room for a while. this is needed because when you apply the binder and wrapper you are adding a large amount of moisture to the mix. this actually starts what many call the "third fermentation." it does take a little bit to get into the full swing of it and even longer to let the moisture levels fall and end it. this the entire need for the aging room. this is also why if you smoke a cigar directly off the rolling table it is good, but if you smoke it three weeks later it has a harsh ammonia taste to it. then after a few more months that is gone and you have a cigar that no longer tastes as young.
so if you order these fresh rolled cigars, you have a short amount of time to smoke them unless you want to make longer commitment.
So this all makes sense and is great info btw, thanks for posting Alex and Kuzi. But given all that, what makes them fresh rolled?
I could be mistaken but didn't another company put out a freshrolled cigar where they shipped right after rolling, and before any final aging? I think they recomended putting them to sleep for 3-6 months if you don't dig the fresh rolled taste.
Again I'm struggling to use the forum search function but I beleive either Alex or Kuzi posted something in an aging thread where the general topic was that if you smoke a cigar within 6 weeks of rolling it has that fresh taste which some people really enjoy, yet few actually get to because most cigars are aged well beyond that prior to shipping, and its called something but I forget the term. After that 6 week period a cigar may get weird until ~6 month mark which is why most premiums are aged at least that long at the factory after rolling but prior to shipping.
From the description it sounds like these are shipped right after rolling in order to further keep the costs down. This might be a way to truly taste a freshly rolled cigar which is something that we don't often get the opportunity to do. Is this the same type of thing? If so thats kind of cool. I haven't gotten the latest catalog yet, it usualy comes a few days later, so manybe its all talked about in there.
from what i gather, they roll them, throw a label on em and shove em in a box destined for your house. i think that the time table may be different, but what you said is generally true.
under "normal" conditions they roll the cigar and throw it in the aging room for a while. this is needed because when you apply the binder and wrapper you are adding a large amount of moisture to the mix. this actually starts what many call the "third fermentation." it does take a little bit to get into the full swing of it and even longer to let the moisture levels fall and end it. this the entire need for the aging room. this is also why if you smoke a cigar directly off the rolling table it is good, but if you smoke it three weeks later it has a harsh ammonia taste to it. then after a few more months that is gone and you have a cigar that no longer tastes as young.
so if you order these fresh rolled cigars, you have a short amount of time to smoke them unless you want to make longer commitment.
Right on Kuzi, thanks for clarifying. this is kind of a cool concept. I'm thinking I may have to try these and hopefully get one in the first fresh period so I can try one in that stage.
So this all makes sense and is great info btw, thanks for posting Alex and Kuzi. But given all that, what makes them fresh rolled?
I could be mistaken but didn't another company put out a freshrolled cigar where they shipped right after rolling, and before any final aging? I think they recomended putting them to sleep for 3-6 months if you don't dig the fresh rolled taste.
Again I'm struggling to use the forum search function but I beleive either Alex or Kuzi posted something in an aging thread where the general topic was that if you smoke a cigar within 6 weeks of rolling it has that fresh taste which some people really enjoy, yet few actually get to because most cigars are aged well beyond that prior to shipping, and its called something but I forget the term. After that 6 week period a cigar may get weird until ~6 month mark which is why most premiums are aged at least that long at the factory after rolling but prior to shipping.
From the description it sounds like these are shipped right after rolling in order to further keep the costs down. This might be a way to truly taste a freshly rolled cigar which is something that we don't often get the opportunity to do. Is this the same type of thing? If so thats kind of cool. I haven't gotten the latest catalog yet, it usualy comes a few days later, so manybe its all talked about in there.
from what i gather, they roll them, throw a label on em and shove em in a box destined for your house. i think that the time table may be different, but what you said is generally true.
under "normal" conditions they roll the cigar and throw it in the aging room for a while. this is needed because when you apply the binder and wrapper you are adding a large amount of moisture to the mix. this actually starts what many call the "third fermentation." it does take a little bit to get into the full swing of it and even longer to let the moisture levels fall and end it. this the entire need for the aging room. this is also why if you smoke a cigar directly off the rolling table it is good, but if you smoke it three weeks later it has a harsh ammonia taste to it. then after a few more months that is gone and you have a cigar that no longer tastes as young.
so if you order these fresh rolled cigars, you have a short amount of time to smoke them unless you want to make longer commitment.
would it be wise to keep them seperate from your other cigars while going through this process? I certainly wouldn't want any other sticks picking up any of the harshness/amonia that the young ones would be putting off...??
im not sure how much it would effect them to tell the truth. an aging humidor would minimize any possible issues. the amount of time that they would spend in there would even it out. all cigars have been through this at some point, so the ammonia will dissipate.
would it be wise to keep them seperate from your other cigars while going through this process? I certainly wouldn't want any other sticks picking up any of the harshness/amonia that the young ones would be putting off...??
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I could be mistaken but didn't another company put out a freshrolled cigar where they shipped right after rolling, and before any final aging? I think they recomended putting them to sleep for 3-6 months if you don't dig the fresh rolled taste. Again I'm struggling to use the forum search function but I beleive either Alex or Kuzi posted something in an aging thread where the general topic was that if you smoke a cigar within 6 weeks of rolling it has that fresh taste which some people really enjoy, yet few actually get to because most cigars are aged well beyond that prior to shipping, and its called something but I forget the term. After that 6 week period a cigar may get weird until ~6 month mark which is why most premiums are aged at least that long at the factory after rolling but prior to shipping.
From the description it sounds like these are shipped right after rolling in order to further keep the costs down. This might be a way to truly taste a freshly rolled cigar which is something that we don't often get the opportunity to do. Is this the same type of thing? If so thats kind of cool. I haven't gotten the latest catalog yet, it usualy comes a few days later, so manybe its all talked about in there.
Now if we could get an actual forum BOTL in the winners circle for the Monthly CCom Giveaway...
i think that the time table may be different, but what you said is generally true.
under "normal" conditions they roll the cigar and throw it in the aging room for a while. this is needed because when you apply the binder and wrapper you are adding a large amount of moisture to the mix. this actually starts what many call the "third fermentation." it does take a little bit to get into the full swing of it and even longer to let the moisture levels fall and end it. this the entire need for the aging room. this is also why if you smoke a cigar directly off the rolling table it is good, but if you smoke it three weeks later it has a harsh ammonia taste to it. then after a few more months that is gone and you have a cigar that no longer tastes as young.
so if you order these fresh rolled cigars, you have a short amount of time to smoke them unless you want to make longer commitment.
Right on Kuzi, thanks for clarifying. this is kind of a cool concept. I'm thinking I may have to try these and hopefully get one in the first fresh period so I can try one in that stage.