Graycliff Crystal

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alienmisprint

Never tried the regular Crystal, but the LTD is phenomenal.

Russ55

I've had the regular one. I liked it. It's a good stick, but nowhere near worth the MSRP. I'd say it's about a 5-7 dollar cigar. Graycliff flavors tend to be a bit delicate, so having one as the fourth stick of the day is likely to cause you to miss a lot of the nuances, but it depends on what you smoked, and your palate. It does sound like you got a bit of a bum stick, what with the bad draw and all, but that's Graycliff. They're just not consistent. I like their blending style, but if they're serious about asking the prices they do, then they need to get much more consistent with their construction.

kuzi16

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j0z3r

jj20030

alienmisprint:

Never tried the regular Crystal, but the LTD is phenomenal.

x2 i thought so too, havent tried the crystal

ndhaon91

It's definitely a more subtle, delicate smoke. I think there's a good chance your palate was just trashed.

docbp87

Like Joe said, to be fair to the brand, you really have to separate the actual Graycliff cigars from the stuff that online retailers have bought the rights to put Graycliff bands on. Big difference. I love the Graycliff Chateau Gran Cru (Purple), and the Espresso.

madurofan

Its sad to me that Graycliff would even allow these spinoff cigars. The Espresso line is excellent.

docbp87

madurofan:

Its sad to me that Graycliff would even allow these spinoff cigars. The Espresso line is excellent.

Lots of brands do it, unfortunately... Padilla, Rocky, and Gurkha are probably the worst offenders, off the top of my head. Alec Bradley is up there lately too.

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Russ55

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madurofan

docbp87:

madurofan:

Its sad to me that Graycliff would even allow these spinoff cigars. The Espresso line is excellent.

Lots of brands do it, unfortunately... Padilla, Rocky, and Gurkha are probably the worst offenders, off the top of my head. Alec Bradley is up there lately too.

Yea I know, but lets be honest no brand that's held to that regard does it. All those you listed are not manufacturers like Graycliff is. Rocky owns a factory now but he didn't start that way.

docbp87

madurofan:

docbp87:

madurofan:

Its sad to me that Graycliff would even allow these spinoff cigars. The Espresso line is excellent.

Lots of brands do it, unfortunately... Padilla, Rocky, and Gurkha are probably the worst offenders, off the top of my head. Alec Bradley is up there lately too.

Yea I know, but lets be honest no brand that's held to that regard does it. All those you listed are not manufacturers like Graycliff is. Rocky owns a factory now but he didn't start that way.

I think it is a shame with Padilla, personally. Padilla, when he was working with Pepin still, put out some amazing stuff. I still think that the stuff made at Raices Cubanas is pretty good in general, but just doesn't compare to the Pepin stuff, and I don't care for any of the off brand Padilla stuff. Looking forward to the new stuff, La Terrazza and Artemis.

madurofan