Mitt for brains Romney

wwestern

Anyone else super pissed off this jackass is being labeled as the front runner for the GOP?

lilwing88

I'm not exactly thrilled..... but I'd take Mitt over Obama any day of the week and twice on Sundays.

xmacro

Ehhh . . . Mitt is STILL defending his RomneyCare plan and it's individual mandate, and despite premiums increasing faster than they were before RomneyCare, Mitt's saying it was great for Massachusetts - which begs the question, if it was so great for your State, why isn't it great for the nation? He's pretty much lost my vote with all the bobbing and weaving he's been doing, and trying to thread the needle/reconciling opposite viewpoints. Him and Gingrich are the same IMO - Old Guard types who are mostly running because they think "it's my turn; I want a legacy", instead of having an actual vision for where they wanna lead the country.

Tim Pawlenty and Herman Caine are interesting; I'm waiting to see what kind of campaign they'll run

fla-gypsy

xmacro:

Ehhh . . . Mitt is STILL defending his RomneyCare plan and it's individual mandate, and despite premiums increasing faster than they were before RomneyCare, Mitt's saying it was great for Massachusetts - which begs the question, if it was so great for your State, why isn't it great for the nation? He's pretty much lost my vote with all the bobbing and weaving he's been doing, and trying to thread the needle/reconciling opposite viewpoints. Him and Gingrich are the same IMO - Old Guard types who are mostly running because they think "it's my turn; I want a legacy", instead of having an actual vision for where they wanna lead the country.

Tim Pawlenty and Herman Caine are interesting; I'm waiting to see what kind of campaign they'll run

I like Herman, my first pick would be Col. West but he is staying out of it.

cabinetmaker

Caine/Palin, Palin/Caine - I'd be on board either way.

MTuccelli

cabinetmaker:

Caine/Palin, Palin/Caine - I'd be on board either way.

+1

bige1371

It's looking like I might have to write my name in this time. Not that it matters NY always goes with the Dems anyways. Not to excited about any of the canidates maybe Giuliani if he gets his gun control issues straight.

wwestern

Ron Paul is money. He doesn't have a snow ball chance in hell of getting the nom. I sure do need to find a way to make enough money to buy an island.

beatnic

I want a dull president. Just do the job and quit being a prima-donna.

SmokySuit

wwestern:

Ron Paul is money. He doesn't have a snow ball chance in hell of getting the nom. I sure do need to find a way to make enough money to buy an island.

+1

xmacro

beatnic:

I want a dull president. Just do the job and quit being a prima-donna.

Pawlenty fits that bill - guy is so dull that he's not getting any notice, but he's got guts to go to Iowa and tell the farmers he's gonna cut their corn subsidies

Vulchor

Lol, I cant even do right when I do "right". Mitt was one of the two (R. Paul) that I could see myself voting for.....I cant win with my rightie friends here;)

cabinetmaker

Vulchor:

Lol, I cant even do right when I do "right". Mitt was one of the two (R. Paul) that I could see myself voting for.....I cant win with my rightie friends here;)

Lol, don't get me wrong... Mitt gets the nom then I'm behind him 100%, but until then I'm for someone else. I could not vote for someone like mccain in '08, he's just Obama with an "R" after his name...

xmacro

New poll out today by liberal polling outfit Public Policy Polling -
- Romney and Palin are tied with 16% of the vote
- Pawlenty pulls in 13%
- Cain comes in 4th with 12%.

Link:http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0611/56113.html

Some other polls have Guiliani polling 2nd behind Romney

Vulchor

xmacro:

New poll out today by liberal polling outfit Public Policy Polling -
- Romney and Palin are tied with 16% of the vote
- Pawlenty pulls in 13%
- Cain comes in 4th with 12%.

Link:http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0611/56113.html

Reagan and Barry Goldwater, both holding a respectable 7% as well.....lollllllllllllllllllll-------that one struck me funny as hell for some reason.

PuroFreak

I'm a firm supporter of Herman Cain so far. He is a smart businessman that has great values and isn't afraid to say what is on his mind. I WILL NOT support Romney period. Throwing him up against Press. Obama would probably produce the same results as McCain did.

Redtailhawkoz

NIXON NOW!

Vulchor

Redtailhawkoz:

NIXON NOW!

+1

wwestern

Creating a back and forth of "big spending liberalism/socialism" vs "big spending pushing moral justice right wing crap (woulda said conservative but most republicans don't fit that label)" is going to create nothing but problems for America. Actually it already has.

People need the freedom to try and the freedom to fail. We've created a society where there's not much reward in self reliance and in some cases it's even punished.

I guess the point I'm trying to make here is if you want your freedoms your going to have to let other people have theirs too. You should use your morals to guide you and those close to you. In the same breath you shouldn't use your morals as a rule to oppress others.

Husker44

In the end I think it will be Pawlenty. Had he been McCain's running mate instead of Palin, Obama wouldn't be our president.

If Palin somehow comes in the mix, I quit.

Vulchor

Palin will not come into anything (no pun intended) because she is poltical sucide for the right when it comes to independent voters. She may be loved by many, but she is also as loathed as any person out there as well-----and I cant imagine why....so smart, well spoken, and up to date on things

lilwing88

This is interesting......

"Among all Americans, Obama and Romney are knotted at 47 percent each, and among registered voters, the former governor is numerically ahead, 49 percent to 46 percent."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/obama-loses-bin-laden-bounce-romney-on-the-move-among-gop-contenders/2011/06/06/AGT5wiKH_print.html

Polls can be misleading and it's still waaaaay too early to call anything, but I'm shocked that Mitt is even close......

phobicsquirrel

Vulchor:

Lol, I cant even do right when I do "right". Mitt was one of the two (R. Paul) that I could see myself voting for.....I cant win with my rightie friends here;)

::::cough:::: cough... oh sorry... something in my throat. Not that I would vote for him but Paul is in my opinion the best the gop has put forth so far. Though he will never get the votes. Besides, I highly doubt obama won't win re-election, so basically any goper who runs shouldn't have any hopes. Though if the GOP keeps up with their complete and utter impedance on job creation and keeps the unemployment high and keeps re-directing the press on crap that doesn't matter than I could see the public being retarded again and vote for the gop. Sadly even having the dems in all three branches does very little as they don't have the guts to push any legislation that would really turn things around, I mean even with two branches the dems cave to the gop. I have to hand it to the gop, they suck at governing but they are great with driving the debate.

phobicsquirrel

lilwing88:

This is interesting......

"Among all Americans, Obama and Romney are knotted at 47 percent each, and among registered voters, the former governor is numerically ahead, 49 percent to 46 percent."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/obama-loses-bin-laden-bounce-romney-on-the-move-among-gop-contenders/2011/06/06/AGT5wiKH_print.html

Polls can be misleading and it's still waaaaay too early to call anything, but I'm shocked that Mitt is even close......

Kind of sad actually. Polls are polls and all but it's really sad that people have such short memories and that not enough people pay attention what is and has really gone on. I mean the gop has done nothing but stand in the way of this country's recovery but they are masters of steering the debate and hiding the facts. And dems suck and calling them out.

wwestern

Yeah because history has proven that huge government spending always leads to the economy flourishing....

xmacro

phobicsquirrel:

::::cough:::: cough... oh sorry... something in my throat. Not that I would vote for him but Paul is in my opinion the best the gop has put forth so far. Though he will never get the votes. Besides, I highly doubt obama won't win re-election, so basically any goper who runs shouldn't have any hopes.

No President has ever won re-election with more than 7.1% unemployment. With unemployment at 9.1%, and the number of jobs declining from Apr. - May, Obama's in trouble. Add to that the fact that the business community is still angry at him for his attacks and increase on regulations, plus the Dem jewish fundraisers are pissed at him for suggesting Israel go back to the 1967 borders, plus the unions are 1) pissed at him for not pushing card check, 2) already spending heavily and depleting their war chests in Ohio/Wisc.

Yeah, Obama's a shoo-in.

phobicsquirrel:

Though if the GOP keeps up with their complete and utter impedance on job creation and keeps the unemployment high and keeps re-directing the press on crap that doesn't matter than I could see the public being retarded again and vote for the gop. Sadly even having the dems in all three branches does very little as they don't have the guts to push any legislation that would really turn things around, I mean even with two branches the dems cave to the gop. I have to hand it to the gop, they suck at governing but they are great with driving the debate.

Riiight. The Dems controlled Congress and the WH for 2 yrs with a supermajority that could - and did - ram what they wanted through, and they still control the Senate + WH. I'm sure it's all the GOP's fault that the economy's in the crapper.

phobicsquirrel:

Kind of sad actually. Polls are polls and all but it's really sad that people have such short memories and that not enough people pay attention what is and has really gone on. I mean the gop has done nothing but stand in the way of this country's recovery but they are masters of steering the debate and hiding the facts. And dems suck and calling them out.

Another standard progressive line, "The stimulus didn't work only because we didn't spend enough; it's the Rethuglicans fault for stopping card-check, more stimulus, and more regulations.". No surprise here.

wwestern

http://youtu.be/hcHt1ts-VBI

Vulchor

The only thing I, as an Obama supporter, worry about from the Repubs is if they decide to discuss the real issues and real ways to fix them.......That being said, its also why I am very confident of re-eleection, as the Repubs wont be able to stop talking about gay marriage, gun rights,. abortion, and the death penatly long enough to hit on the real issues that the intelligent swing voters care about.

phobicsquirrel

Macro... Umm, so if tax cuts really work then this country should be flourishing in jobs... wait, no we are not. how bout that.

phobicsquirrel

xmacro:

phobicsquirrel:

::::cough:::: cough... oh sorry... something in my throat. Not that I would vote for him but Paul is in my opinion the best the gop has put forth so far. Though he will never get the votes. Besides, I highly doubt obama won't win re-election, so basically any goper who runs shouldn't have any hopes.

No President has ever won re-election with more than 7.1% unemployment. With unemployment at 9.1%, and the number of jobs declining from Apr. - May, Obama's in trouble. Add to that the fact that the business community is still angry at him for his attacks and increase on regulations, plus the Dem jewish fundraisers are pissed at him for suggesting Israel go back to the 1967 borders, plus the unions are 1) pissed at him for not pushing card check, 2) already spending heavily and depleting their war chests in Ohio/Wisc.

Yeah, Obama's a shoo-in.

" From a high of 10.8% in December 1982, unemployment gradually improved until it fell to 7.2% on Election Day in 1984.[5] Nearly two million people left the unemployment rolls.[47] Inflation fell from 10.3% in 1981 to 3.2% in 1983.[2][48] Corporate earnings rose by 29% in the July–September quarter of 1983, compared with the same period in 1982. Some of the most dramatic improvements came in industries hardest hit by the recession, such as paper and forest products, rubber, airlines, and the auto industry.[47]

By November 1984, voter anger at the recession evaporated and Reagan's re-election was not in doubt.[35][36][43] Reagan was subsequently re-elected by a landslide electoral and popular vote margin in the 1984 presidential election. Immediately after the election, Dave Stockman, Reagan's OMB manager admitted that the coming deficits were much higher than the projections released during the campaign."

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http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/data/UNRATE.txt

So with some fluxuations un-employment was around 7.2 - 7.4 however like now it was much higher as the "official" percentage is very much skewed. The GOP have stood in the way of any major recovery in this country. You probably won't believe it but the votes are on record as to what they voted for. And almost every time it was against the american people and for corporate interests..

kuzi16

phobicsquirrel:

xmacro:

phobicsquirrel:

::::cough:::: cough... oh sorry... something in my throat. Not that I would vote for him but Paul is in my opinion the best the gop has put forth so far. Though he will never get the votes. Besides, I highly doubt obama won't win re-election, so basically any goper who runs shouldn't have any hopes.

No President has ever won re-election with more than 7.1% unemployment. With unemployment at 9.1%, and the number of jobs declining from Apr. - May, Obama's in trouble. Add to that the fact that the business community is still angry at him for his attacks and increase on regulations, plus the Dem jewish fundraisers are pissed at him for suggesting Israel go back to the 1967 borders, plus the unions are 1) pissed at him for not pushing card check, 2) already spending heavily and depleting their war chests in Ohio/Wisc.

Yeah, Obama's a shoo-in.

" From a high of 10.8% in December 1982, unemployment gradually improved until it fell to 7.2% on Election Day in 1984.[5] Nearly two million people left the unemployment rolls.[47] Inflation fell from 10.3% in 1981 to 3.2% in 1983.[2][48] Corporate earnings rose by 29% in the July–September quarter of 1983, compared with the same period in 1982. Some of the most dramatic improvements came in industries hardest hit by the recession, such as paper and forest products, rubber, airlines, and the auto industry.[47]

By November 1984, voter anger at the recession evaporated and Reagan's re-election was not in doubt.[35][36][43] Reagan was subsequently re-elected by a landslide electoral and popular vote margin in the 1984 presidential election. Immediately after the election, Dave Stockman, Reagan's OMB manager admitted that the coming deficits were much higher than the projections released during the campaign."

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http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/data/UNRATE.txt

So with some fluxuations un-employment was around 7.2 - 7.4 however like now it was much higher as the "official" percentage is very much skewed. The GOP have stood in the way of any major recovery in this country. You probably won't believe it but the votes are on record as to what they voted for. And almost every time it was against the american people and for corporate interests..

ah ha! you admit it!! the Reagan Administration saw unemployment falling !!


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