post closed guys....let it go please.

Joeyjoe21_8

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doromath

xmacro

phobicsquirrel

kuzi16

xmacro

Joeyjoe21_8

xmacro

laker1963

Joeyjoe21_8

I never said anything about Obama being a god president and he is a great person to point the finger at for oil companies cuz at this moment he cant do anything, nor does he want to.....he was the number 1 president when he was campaigning to be elected to recieve more money from oil companies then any other president in the history of the U.S. but seriously.....I want to see a fact for this .05 profit margins u speak of. lol

lilwing88

Joeyjoe21_8

here here my friend.

cabinetmaker

http://www.api.org/aboutoilgas/gasoline/ There is some of the information. Oil companies spend $2/gallon turning oil to gas. Then its taxed. It still has not made it to the pump yet. It has to be transported by pipelines, tankers, etc. It's still not at the pump yet. Now it has to be transported. You can add $$ at every stage.

Jetmech_63

Anyone notice food prices starting to inch up? It's getting a little steep here in the central valley, noticed it last time gas prices went up that food, produce, meat and eggs were in inching up. A gallon of tropicana orange juice is now over 7.80, and that's at a "bargain grocery store". Things could get interesting...

Joeyjoe21_8

yeah bro....i was at the store the other day, 18 ct eggs are now 3.70.....used to be 1.97 at my raleys....artichokes were 5 bucks each...always was 2 for 4....etc....fukin stupid

PuroFreak

Vulchor

Another discussion turning into right vs left instead of discussing how to fix the problem or at least change the way we handle things. EXACTLY, what the left and right want....keeps their power centrailzed and we fight against each other instead of the institutions themselves holding people down.

PuroFreak

No Vulch, I'm not saying this is the let's fault at all. All im pointing out is that the general public's lack of understanding of the oil industry and how it works has allowed the left to demonize the oil companies, when in fact they have little to do with the price. Why don't people raise hell with companies that mine gold when the price of gold shoots through the roof like it has now? The price of gold is as much their fault as the price of oil is the oil companies fault. You don't hear anyone attacking "big gold industry." It's seriously ridiculous.

xmacro

Vulchor

I understand fellas and dont disagree----but the right has their hot button issues as well. All these issues do is divide the "average joe" to keep the wealth and power where it is and where they want it to be. That is not a right or left issue, its a power--control----and money issues.....but we allow politicians and the media to make it an ideological debate whenthe only REAL idology is those who REALLLLLLY have, keeping it and making sure the have not's dont try too hard to get a share.

xmacro

PuroFreak

Vulchor

I would also disagree because I totally disagree with the theory wealth cannot be created....dont agree with this at all. I am simply equating wealth with power and need to keep both when you have them. The more that is obtained, the more energy is used to keep it and to obtain more. The best way to do this is ensure your wealth continues to grow but eliminating any competition to your wealth. This is where I beleive the powerful attempt to create debates and ideologgical differences to keep those with less than they themselves have from obtaining it. This is where I would get into the Bildeburgers, Trilateral Commission, ect. I dont believe its conservative vs liberal or right vs left....I feel it is much deeper than that, and has more to do with power to the extreme (via wealth) and keeping the masses controlled.

laker1963

Redtailhawkoz

sol1821

i pay $12 a gallon for the cheapest stuff

Russ55

The solution, or part of it is hydrogen vehicles. The technology is there, but we lack the infrastructure, ie stations, and probably the political will to implement it.

xmacro

Russ55

xmacro:

Hydrogen, while plentiful, is difficult to manufacture, requires specialized transporation, and is extremely flammable.

Sounds like gasoline.

PuroFreak

xmacro

Russ55:

xmacro:

Hydrogen, while plentiful, is difficult to manufacture, requires specialized transporation, and is extremely flammable.

Sounds like gasoline.

Gasoline is easy to keep in the liquid state; hydrogen, not so much, plus there's techincal hurdles to overcome. http://money.usnews.com/money/personal-finance/articles/2008/01/11/hydrogenfuel-cells