just a few new questions

wmaxham

if u no me, u no i have asked alot of questions. well i have 3 new ones. so without further ado. 1. how long can a cigar once bought, sit inside a bag, without a humidification pillow, safely last? and as a bonus. whats the longest u let sit a cigar, smoked it, and it still was fresh? 2. how long can a cigar sit outside of a bag, without humidification? and also, whats the longest u let a cigar sit outside of a bag, smoked it, and it still tasted fresh? 3. how long can a cigar sit in a fridge without humidification? safely? i no it was a few more then i said. but deal. thanks for all who answer.

kaspera79

j0z3r

wmaxham

i was just sayin, if anyone would say it was really like 5 questions instead of 3. they could deal. my bad if it came off offensive. and really? the fridge is that bad?(taking cigars out and putting em into a container) would just overnight b that bad? cause i got em yesterday and forgot to get a pillow.

Garen B

kuzi16

the humidity is a fridge is very inconsistent. as the compressor turns on and off the moisture in the air condenses around the cooling elements. so depending on where in the fridge you put the smokes it could be a huge RH problem

madurofan

kuzi16:

the humidity is a fridge is very inconsistent. as the compressor turns on and off the moisture in the air condenses around the cooling elements. so depending on where in the fridge you put the smokes it could be a huge RH problem

Hey kuz, you remember sirius' argument that this statement was not true? Well I've tested his theory and come to the conclusion that he may be right. Based on my research which was done with my wine fridge and my regular home fridge. The RH doesn't fluctuate more than 1% when the compressor kicks on in my wine fridge. And only once did I see a fluctuation of more than 1% in the home fridge. But the home fridge was harder to be sure with bc I had to open the door to see the hygrometer. In the wine fridge I actually stuck the hygro to the metal guard over the condensors so it doesn't get much closer than that.

Krieg

Another way u can look at it is cigars are born in the tropics, where it is perfect to grow tobacco. Cigars love this weather and putting the cigar in a fridge is basically the total opposite enviroment you want for your sticks.

madurofan

Krieg:

Another way u can look at it is cigars are born in the tropics, where it is perfect to grow tobacco. Cigars love this weather and putting the cigar in a fridge is basically the total opposite enviroment you want for your sticks.

Now while it is true that cigar tobacco is for the most part grown in the tropics Krieg, you DO NOT want to store your cigars in tropical climates. Unless you want some new pets in your humidor. Cigar beetles, thrive in tropical climates and they can hatch at around 80 degrees/80% RH.

rwheelwright

I have a friend who stores all his cubans in his Fridge. He gave me one and it was fine! However, I know that it IS ok to put your cigars in the freezer if you get Tobacco Beetles however you do not want to put them back in the humidor immediately. You want to put them in the fridge so the termperature change is not so drastic. Can't remember where I read this. Maybe cigar.com or another like site. I personally wouldn't store them in a fridge unless I had no other choice. But hey, that Cuban was still great.

gmill880

arn't all cigars put in a freezer about 3 days after rolling to kill undesirables-and then slowly brought back to norm temps- read that this week just can't remember if it was online or in one of the cigar magazines

madurofan

gmill880:

arn't all cigars put in a freezer about 3 days after rolling to kill undesirables-and then slowly brought back to norm temps- read that this week just can't remember if it was online or in one of the cigar magazines

Not all, some.

j0z3r

wmaxham:

i was just sayin, if anyone would say it was really like 5 questions instead of 3. they could deal. my bad if it came off offensive. and really? the fridge is that bad?(taking cigars out and putting em into a container) would just overnight b that bad? cause i got em yesterday and forgot to get a pillow.

I read you loud and clear. All I was pointing out is that some people could see that as rude or offensive, even if that wasn't your intention. It's all good.

kuzi16

madurofan:

kuzi16:

the humidity is a fridge is very inconsistent. as the compressor turns on and off the moisture in the air condenses around the cooling elements. so depending on where in the fridge you put the smokes it could be a huge RH problem

Hey kuz, you remember sirius' argument that this statement was not true? Well I've tested his theory and come to the conclusion that he may be right. Based on my research which was done with my wine fridge and my regular home fridge. The RH doesn't fluctuate more than 1% when the compressor kicks on in my wine fridge. And only once did I see a fluctuation of more than 1% in the home fridge. But the home fridge was harder to be sure with bc I had to open the door to see the hygrometer. In the wine fridge I actually stuck the hygro to the metal guard over the condensors so it doesn't get much closer than that.

it may be true for YOUR fridge. i have an old POS and it actually has a DRAIN in the back to catch the drip from the condenser.

madurofan

Interesting.

wmaxham

crap. i put a damp paper towl peice in a Tupperware with 3 cigars, 1 being dried out. and now there damp. and the dried out one expanded in 3 spots tword the paper towl and broke the wrapper abit. and the cigar is hand made from newyork. :,(

Krieg

madurofan:

Krieg:

Another way u can look at it is cigars are born in the tropics, where it is perfect to grow tobacco. Cigars love this weather and putting the cigar in a fridge is basically the total opposite enviroment you want for your sticks.

Now while it is true that cigar tobacco is for the most part grown in the tropics Krieg, you DO NOT want to store your cigars in tropical climates. Unless you want some new pets in your humidor. Cigar beetles, thrive in tropical climates and they can hatch at around 80 degrees/80% RH.

] you are absolutely right, I try to keep my cigars around 70RH and 70degrees...i think it is anything over 73Rh you run the risk of mold.

madurofan

While 70/70 is considered optimal but most "experts" many people keep there RH and temp well below that and some keep it above that. Its generally accepted anywhere between 60 and 75 degrees or RH won't do any damage.