Bad News

Jumper

So much bad stuff happening around the country today. The news was so depressing that I had to go out and get a couple of cigars.

dennisking

what's going on?

Jumper

Susan Bolton's ruling on the AZ lawsuit, a lot of negative stuff coming out about the Financial Regulation bill that was passed, and another unfavorable ruling for Christian college students such as myself.

stephen_hannibal

LINKAGE?

Jumper

stephen_hannibal:

LINKAGE?

http://azstarnet.com/news/state-and-regional/aea822e0-9a6b-11df-9fe8-001cc4c002e0.html

http://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/2010/07/28/sec-says-new-finreg-law-exempts-public-disclosure/?test=latestnews

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0710/40313.html

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/07/28/court-university-expel-student-opposes-homosexuality/
There is more to the last story than "refusing to counsel homosexuals" but it was only included in the article describing the actual lawsuit.

Joeyjoe21_8

yeah what a bad day...i ran out, bought a 15dollar rum infused...best smelling cigar ever today that is special, also 2 other sticks that is supposed to be mnade with rare tabacco...and my gf bought me a gurkha art deco pre embargo lol

So i hope i am not being offensivg jumper...but if ur a religious person isnt smoking bad in the bible? I wouldnt know as I am not religious....just curious

wwhwang

Joeyjoe21_8:

yeah what a bad day...i ran out, bought a 15dollar rum infused...best smelling cigar ever today that is special, also 2 other sticks that is supposed to be mnade with rare tabacco...and my gf bought me a gurkha art deco pre embargo lol

So i hope i am not being offensivg jumper...but if ur a religious person isnt smoking bad in the bible? I wouldnt know as I am not religious....just curious

Nope. There's nothing in the Bible that says "Thou shalt not herf". There's not anything in the Bible against alcohol either, just the excess and abuse of alcohol.

vegassparky

As far as th AZ law being ripped apart, yeah its a bad day. but i think AZ should sue Obama and the federal gov for neglect of the borders. Then the ranchers who have lost family members and income from the borders not being taken care of should sue too. and since obama wants to parden all the illegals, lets parden every criminal.... like Charles Manson....and wow that would solve the over crowded prison issue. just venting

mrpillow

I'm sorry, but the expulsion story just makes me chuckle LOL

Joeyjoe21_8

aaahhh...got it....told u im not religious...

docedwards

In regards to politics and religion I certainly have my opinions and beliefs. I have no problem with people who voice theirs that support mine or differ from my own. But what works best for me, when I'm among friends I seldom discuss them. I try my best to stay in my "happy place" and politics seldom make me happy.

Jumper

Vegassparky, I agree with you on the specifics of the AZ issue, but there is no way that a lawsuit would benefit Arizona in this case. Ultimately, it is an issue of executive power. So the Judicial branch is only being used to justify Obama's preference to not enforce the borders. Realistically, even if a judge ruled in favor of AZ in a hypothetical lawsuit against the federal government, it is STILL up to the President to enforce the ruling... against himeslf. But I get your point.

Jumper

docedwards:

In regards to politics and religion I certainly have my opinions and beliefs. I have no problem with people who voice theirs that support mine or differ from my own. But what works best for me, when I'm among friends I seldom discuss them. I try my best to stay in my "happy place" and politics seldom make me happy.

It's not a matter of making me happy. These issues obviously don't make me happy. But I feel that it's necessary for me to inform myself and discuss and have input instead of complaining about things after the fact.

Joey, no offense taken, bud. Wayne is right, it does not expressly say in the Bible that smoking isa sin or anything like that. You could potentially make an argument out of the "your body is a temple unto God" passage, but even that is a stretch.

wwestern

Freedom of religion is starting to lose to the freedom of lack of morals alot these days and it is depressing.

rossdavey2

Jumper:

docedwards:

In regards to politics and religion I certainly have my opinions and beliefs. I have no problem with people who voice theirs that support mine or differ from my own. But what works best for me, when I'm among friends I seldom discuss them. I try my best to stay in my "happy place" and politics seldom make me happy.

It's not a matter of making me happy. These issues obviously don't make me happy. But I feel that it's necessary for me to inform myself and discuss and have input instead of complaining about things after the fact.

Joey, no offense taken, bud. Wayne is right, it does not expressly say in the Bible that smoking isa sin or anything like that. You could potentially make an argument out of the "your body is a temple unto God" passage, but even that is a stretch.

Ture seeing as every other time "your Body" is used its meaning the body of believers and not the human body.

Joeyjoe21_8

well i only ask cuz i used to have a really religious co worker...yet we would go to tahoe, drink, gamble, and of course have a cigar....so it was weird...lol