Another loss for cigar smokers (Oops. Jumped the gun on this)

wwhwang

Prince George’s County, Maryland - It is now illegal to walk into a B&M and buy a single cigar. You need to buy 5 or more cigars for the transaction to be legal. The explanation behind this new law is to discourage new smokers and limiting the amount of tobacco purchased by old smokers. EDIT: Yet another right taken away. (Wasn't paying attention the first time)

cholmes8310

wwhwang:

Prince George’s County, Maryland - It is now illegal to walk into a B&M and buy a single cigar. You need to buy 5 or more cigars for the transaction to be legal. The explanation behind this new law is to discourage new smokers and limiting the amount of tobacco purchased by old smokers. Yet another money grab.

god I'm glad I'm getting out of New England.

stephen_hannibal

You sure about that? I think Gas stations are affected but not B&Ms... also there's no B&M in PG that I can think of.

bobd

These laws are absolutely stupid.  They are driving businesses out, at the same time that local governments wonder why they have no money in their budgets.

Enjoying a premium cigar is no different than enjoying a good wine.  Both alcohol and tobacco can be deadly if abused, moderation is key.  The government thinks that they can keep people from being stupid.  If someone is going to abuse a substance they are going to do it no matter what and that is their choice. 

vegassparky

WOW ! if this is true, I am so glad i live in las vegas where sin is sweet ! but on a serious note that is stupid. that doesnt limit you. if you could only buy one that would limit you. buying five promotes you to enjoy more.

wwhwang

That's what was announced. Unless I'm reading the map wrong, googlemap says there's at least two tobacco stores in the area.

wwhwang

vegassparky:

WOW ! if this is true, I am so glad i live in las vegas where sin is sweet ! but on a serious note that is stupid. that doesnt limit you. if you could only buy one that would limit you. buying five promotes you to enjoy more.

True, but if you're buying premium cigars at a local B&M, where cigars average 5 to 11 bucks per cigar, I dunno if a first timer would sink 25 to 55 bucks just to try stuff out.

stephen_hannibal

Dude send me a link.
And I'm pretty sure those tobacco shops are like cigarettes r' us... if it's what I'm thinking about.

vegassparky

wwhwang:

vegassparky:

WOW ! if this is true, I am so glad i live in las vegas where sin is sweet ! but on a serious note that is stupid. that doesnt limit you. if you could only buy one that would limit you. buying five promotes you to enjoy more.

True, but if you're buying premium cigars at a local B&M, where cigars average 5 to 11 bucks per cigar, I dunno if a first timer would sink 25 to 55 bucks just to try stuff out.

first timers are usually introduced by someone. most of the time! and a new guy to cigars shouldnt be dropping that kinda cash. they wouldnt have the palate or the experience to enjoy a higher end smoke.

wwhwang

stephen_hannibal:

Dude send me a link.
And I'm pretty sure those tobacco shops are like cigarettes r' us... if it's what I'm thinking about.

Just re-read both Barry's news at http://www.acigarsmoker.com/2010/07/17/cigar-news-the-week-in-review-7/ and the Washington Post. Looks like both he and I jumped the gun at this news, since Washington Post says that it'll be aimed at "cigarillo" and cheap, small cigars because kids tend to buy the cheap crap to hollow out and fill with weed (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/11/18/AR2008111803407.html).

However, when kids can't buy cheap cigarillos for blunts, guess what they'll be going after next?

vegassparky

wwhwang:

stephen_hannibal:

Dude send me a link.
And I'm pretty sure those tobacco shops are like cigarettes r' us... if it's what I'm thinking about.

Just re-read both Barry's news at http://www.acigarsmoker.com/2010/07/17/cigar-news-the-week-in-review-7/ and the Washington Post. Looks like both he and I jumped the gun at this news, since Washington Post says that it'll be aimed at "cigarillo" and cheap, small cigars because kids tend to buy the cheap crap to hollow out and fill with weed (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/11/18/AR2008111803407.html).

However, when kids can't buy cheap cigarillos for blunts, guess what they'll be going after next?

i wouldnt worry. it easier to just go back to the pipe they started with or papers.

Joeyjoe21_8

Maybe we should just crack down on our borders for drug control, beef up police and DEA and start doing some dam work making it a lot harder to get weed in America versus punishing everyone else

sightunseen

Joeyjoe21_8:

Maybe we should just crack down on our borders for drug control, beef up police and DEA and start doing some dam work making it a lot harder to get weed in America versus punishing everyone else

Or just legalize it and regulate it like everything else. Billions in tax revenues just waiting to be had...

Fourtotheflush

cholmes8310:

wwhwang:

Prince George’s County, Maryland - It is now illegal to walk into a B&M and buy a single cigar. You need to buy 5 or more cigars for the transaction to be legal. The explanation behind this new law is to discourage new smokers and limiting the amount of tobacco purchased by old smokers. Yet another money grab.

god I'm glad I'm getting out of New England.

Takes a guy from the south to think MD is in New England...... HA

Joeyjoe21_8

see I dont mind the legalizing of it...but with harsh punishments for minors under 21 with it...like, 20 years in jail kinda punishment ....or lose ur car for 5 years or something serious so kids arent encouraged....but then the argument comes, if u legalize weed, why not crack, meth, etc...?

fla-gypsy

Fourtotheflush:

cholmes8310:

wwhwang:

Prince George’s County, Maryland - It is now illegal to walk into a B&M and buy a single cigar. You need to buy 5 or more cigars for the transaction to be legal. The explanation behind this new law is to discourage new smokers and limiting the amount of tobacco purchased by old smokers. Yet another money grab.

god I'm glad I'm getting out of New England.

Takes a guy from the south to think MD is in New England...... HA

Those border states might as well been yankee land to us. LOL

cooch36

Fourtotheflush:

cholmes8310:

wwhwang:

Prince George’s County, Maryland - It is now illegal to walk into a B&M and buy a single cigar. You need to buy 5 or more cigars for the transaction to be legal. The explanation behind this new law is to discourage new smokers and limiting the amount of tobacco purchased by old smokers. Yet another money grab.

god I'm glad I'm getting out of New England.

Takes a guy from the south to think MD is in New England...... HA

Clinton MA is one of the highest bars to population ratios. So sad not to know your N.E. states arkansas will welcome u with open arms!

cholmes8310

Fourtotheflush:

cholmes8310:

wwhwang:

Prince George’s County, Maryland - It is now illegal to walk into a B&M and buy a single cigar. You need to buy 5 or more cigars for the transaction to be legal. The explanation behind this new law is to discourage new smokers and limiting the amount of tobacco purchased by old smokers. Yet another money grab.

god I'm glad I'm getting out of New England.

Takes a guy from the south to think MD is in New England...... HA

It is. Anything north of VA and east of PA is NE to me.

cholmes8310

cooch36:

Fourtotheflush:

cholmes8310:

wwhwang:

Prince George’s County, Maryland - It is now illegal to walk into a B&M and buy a single cigar. You need to buy 5 or more cigars for the transaction to be legal. The explanation behind this new law is to discourage new smokers and limiting the amount of tobacco purchased by old smokers. Yet another money grab.

god I'm glad I'm getting out of New England.

Takes a guy from the south to think MD is in New England...... HA

Clinton MA is one of the highest bars to population ratios. So sad not to know your N.E. states arkansas will welcome u with open arms!

No, I'm heading back to Mississippi. Arkansas is Mississippi's favorite state, because as long as there is Arkansas, Mississippi isn't last.

Hayblet

Joeyjoe21_8:

see I dont mind the legalizing of it...but with harsh punishments for minors under 21 with it...like, 20 years in jail kinda punishment ....or lose ur car for 5 years or something serious so kids arent encouraged....but then the argument comes, if u legalize weed, why not crack, meth, etc...?

Because a weed smoker won't kill somebody for weed? I agree with regulating it it would solve so many debt problems and create a way to get out of this recession.

Smoke=Fire

Hayblet:

Joeyjoe21_8:

see I dont mind the legalizing of it...but with harsh punishments for minors under 21 with it...like, 20 years in jail kinda punishment ....or lose ur car for 5 years or something serious so kids arent encouraged....but then the argument comes, if u legalize weed, why not crack, meth, etc...?

Because a weed smoker won't kill somebody for weed? I agree with regulating it it would solve so many debt problems and create a way to get out of this recession.

Have I ever seen a violent drunk? Sure

Someone all tanked up on coke and twitchy, ready to snap? Sure.

A person who is stoned and violent? No. Usually in my experience it was smile at everything, three bags of Doritos, and a nap that was in store.

Do I indulge anymore? No, not for over 20 years. But I still think MJ should be legalized. "Gateway" drug be damned. If that was the case, we would criminalize alcohol again; alcohol, which has destroyed more lives, both users and the victims, than any 3 other drugs combined, yet we sell it by the gallon.

Moderation in anything is the key...including moderation

Now...back to Cigars!

TheDrifter

stephen_hannibal:

You sure about that? I think Gas stations are affected but not B&Ms... also there's no B&M in PG that I can think of.

New guy chiming in. Being from PG I'm almost positive it's B&M's are not effected, not that it matters since there are none as stated above! Everyone I know who smokes in the county goes to Anne Arundle to purchase. If there is a decent B&M I don't know if it.