Israel 'to keep' parts of West Bank

laker1963

fla-gypsy

OK, this you can be sure of, they will fight each other forever or until one completely does away with the other.

kuzi16

fla-gypsy:

OK, this you can be sure of, they will fight each other forever or until one completely does away with the other.

isnt this (in theory) how war is waged? you fight each other until one is eliminated or surrenders. not pretty. not fun. not nice. thats war for you.

laker1963

kuzi16:

fla-gypsy:

OK, this you can be sure of, they will fight each other forever or until one completely does away with the other.

isnt this (in theory) how war is waged? you fight each other until one is eliminated or surrenders. not pretty. not fun. not nice. thats war for you.

Oh, is there a war going on over there? I thought it was an occupation... my bad.

mustluvcigars

kuzi16

Vulchor

Kuz I really dont think Isreal is made to be the only evil one here. And even if that is so, I think its it draw attention to the solely pro-Isreal news and rhetoric we get in North America, very biased on the part of our media.

cabinetmaker

When Isreali's begin strapping explosive vests onto children and sending them into public places filled with women and children to blow up, I might just give a $hit about the Palestinians; but not until then.

kuzi16

cabinetmaker:

When Isreali's begin strapping explosive vests onto children and sending them into public places filled with women and children to blow up, I might just give a $hit about the Palestinians; but not until then.

though i understand your sentiment here im not sure ive ever seen an article or instance where a child strapped on a bomb. got a link?

dennisking

kuzi16:

cabinetmaker:

When Isreali's begin strapping explosive vests onto children and sending them into public places filled with women and children to blow up, I might just give a $hit about the Palestinians; but not until then.

though i understand your sentiment here im not sure ive ever seen an article or instance where a child strapped on a bomb. got a link?

I am sure you can ask anyone on here that has served in Iraq or Afghanistan about stuff like this and they will tell you what one sect of a religion is doing to make a statement. I worked with a guy who had 2 kids on bicycles pushed out in front of his convoy. He had to run the kids over. Why you ask, because they push kids and women in front of these convoys to ambush them and take the supplies and weapons. They kidnap these kids and women from their families and do this all the time. Yes, I know they are extremists but I have no respect for anyone that does that. Yes, I know that atrocities have been commited in the name of all religions at one time or another but those were before my time. In my lifetime, the extreme side of the Muslim faith is responsible for so many attacks and atrocities that one person cannot name them all. I haven't seen any reports of Israeli suicide bombers. Good point cabi

fla-gypsy

Vulchor:

Kuz I really dont think Isreal is made to be the only evil one here. And even if that is so, I think its it draw attention to the solely pro-Isreal news and rhetoric we get in North America, very biased on the part of our media.

This is a good lesson in perception for all of us. I see the news here as very pro palestinian, Vulchor sees it the other way. Israel will never give up Jerusalem, and they will eventually take the Temple Mount and attempt to rebuild their Temple. The Muslims will always try to pick at the perimiter of Israel's defenses and occassionally get enough nerve to attack straight up when they get full of Allah. The result will continue to be the same until one of them breaks out the nasty weapons (nuclear or chemical) then all bets are off as to what will occur. Every few years the Muslims decide they are going to wipe them from the earth and they go home with their tail between their legs. It doesn't matter what we think is right or wrong, this is reality.

laker1963

dennisking

laker1963

dennisking

laker1963

PuroFreak

dennisking

you read the article and you let me know if you would do THAT to further your cause. I know you wouldn't. Keep in mind that saying Palestine has a lack of military backing is a mis-statement. Iran, UAE, Jordan, Egypt, Libyia, and Pakistan would all love to wipe Israel off the face of the Earth and have the weaponry to do so. It's not like a bully picking on a small kid and stealing the lunch money. It's like two bullies in a boxing ring with people egging them on.

laker1963

dennisking

cabinetmaker

laker1963

cabinetmaker

Luko

laker1963

laker1963

dennisking

would we have this same argument if we were talking about the british versus the IRA

laker1963

dennisking

I only bring up that other conflict to make the point that, regardless of religion or race, the human race will find a way to start conflict. it's in our nature as people. do I think Israel is wrong. yes. do I think palestine is wrong, yes. do i agree with the tactics of hamas and hezbollah, no I don't and I know you don't as well. I see what point you are trying to make. The point I make is if you see an angry dog, do you jab it with sticks or do you leave it alone. Palestine should quit jabbing lest they push too far. Let sleeping dogs lie and maybe, just maybe they will relax

laker1963

dennisking:

I only bring up that other conflict to make the point that, regardless of religion or race, the human race will find a way to start conflict. it's in our nature as people. do I think Israel is wrong. yes. do I think palestine is wrong, yes. do i agree with the tactics of hamas and hezbollah, no I don't and I know you don't as well. I see what point you are trying to make. The point I make is if you see an angry dog, do you jab it with sticks or do you leave it alone. Palestine should quit jabbing lest they push too far. Let sleeping dogs lie and maybe, just maybe they will relax

I like the anology. but would add that this "sleeping dog" is laying on your front doorstep. But I do agree with your point. *** people are stupid, rather fight forever it seems rather come to SOME kind of agreement and get on with raising your families.

PuroFreak