Regarding how to know a cigar completely

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mmkuchi
mmkuchi Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 57
I just wonder that if there's any sources I can refer to to figure out, for a particular cigar, what grade is the tobacco, when it is grown, what factory is it rolled by, who's the blender, and specifics like all these.

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  • Glock1975
    Glock1975 Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 4,372
    Very good ?, I know it would help a lot.
  • 90+ Irishman
    90+ Irishman Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 7,868
    Vast majority of cigar manufacturers and factories are quite secretive about that sort of stuff so no, no place im aware of to get that information.
  • Chemnitz
    Chemnitz Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 1,070
  • jgibv
    jgibv Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 5,996
    90+ Irishman:
    Vast majority of cigar manufacturers and factories are quite secretive about that sort of stuff so no, no place im aware of to get that information.
    +1 most will not disclose this much info; they see it like giving up a "trade secret".

    wrapper/binder/filler and country of origin are about all you can expect.

    you could try contacting a rep (either at the vendor, distributor, or manufacturer level).....but chances are if the info isn't disclosed on the packaging or online description, they're not going to tell you.
  • Hays
    Hays Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 2,262
    mmkuchi:
    I just wonder that if there's any sources I can refer to to figure out, for a particular cigar, what grade is the tobacco, when it is grown, what factory is it rolled by, who's the blender, and specifics like all these.
    Experience. One of the gents who taught me a whole hellova lot about the cigar industry could smoke a cigar blind and tell you the age, region, and composition of every component (along with the likely manufacturer based upon blending styles). Absolutely blew my mind, and yes I did test him on it.
  • Amos Umwhat
    Amos Umwhat Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 2,523
    Chemnitz:
    Kuzi
    ^^^This^^^
  • mmkuchi
    mmkuchi Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 57
    Chemnitz:
    Kuzi
    What is this?
  • avengethis
    avengethis Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 1,193
    mmkuchi:
    Chemnitz:
    Kuzi
    What is this?
    The correct question is "Who is this?"
  • roland_7707
    roland_7707 Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 2,647
    avengethis:
    mmkuchi:
    Chemnitz:
    Kuzi
    What is this?
    The correct question is "Who is this?"
    The Yoda of the forums.
  • danielzreyes
    danielzreyes Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 6,739
    Gurkha and RP buy their tobacco at Wal-Mart's garden center.
  • ShadowInTheMoon
    ShadowInTheMoon Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 486
    danielzreyes:
    Gurkha and RP buy their tobacco at Wal-Mart's garden center.
    I heard you grew it for them... or is that another green leaf you grow?
  • The3Stogies
    The3Stogies Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 1,608
    CCOM mag I got in the mail yesterday had an article that touched on this very topic.
  • kuzi16
    kuzi16 Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 14,471
    roland_7707:
    avengethis:
    mmkuchi:
    Chemnitz:
    Kuzi
    What is this?
    The correct question is "Who is this?"
    The Yoda of the forums.
    Yoda I am not.


    correct are the comments about detailed information

    there are too many factors even beyond what was mentioned. Seed verity, country it is grown in, soil conditions, when and how it is fertilized, that years temperature, sunlight, rain, how and when it is harvested, where on the plant it came from, how it is cured, how long it is cured. temperature during fermentation, moisture during fermentation, how often the pilones are rotated, the pressure on them, how long the tobacco is aged post fermentation, how the tobacco is treated during the roll....

    that little list is off the top of my head. if i really sit down and think about it, im sure there are about a dozen more major factors. this doesnt even take into account blending and how much of each leaf is used in a cigar.

    if you want to know more about tobacco, just keep reading everything you can get your hands on.
  • mmkuchi
    mmkuchi Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 57
    kuzi16:
    roland_7707:
    avengethis:
    mmkuchi:
    Chemnitz:
    Kuzi
    What is this?
    The correct question is "Who is this?"
    The Yoda of the forums.
    Yoda I am not.


    correct are the comments about detailed information

    there are too many factors even beyond what was mentioned. Seed verity, country it is grown in, soil conditions, when and how it is fertilized, that years temperature, sunlight, rain, how and when it is harvested, where on the plant it came from, how it is cured, how long it is cured. temperature during fermentation, moisture during fermentation, how often the pilones are rotated, the pressure on them, how long the tobacco is aged post fermentation, how the tobacco is treated during the roll....

    that little list is off the top of my head. if i really sit down and think about it, im sure there are about a dozen more major factors. this doesnt even take into account blending and how much of each leaf is used in a cigar.

    if you want to know more about tobacco, just keep reading everything you can get your hands on.
    Thanks!!!
  • SM0K3Y
    SM0K3Y Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 519
    Spend a drunken night naked with it? Badumm tisss!

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    Sorry, had to say it!
  • kuzi16
    kuzi16 Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 14,471
    SM0K3Y:
    Spend a drunken night naked with it? Badumm tisss!

    photo iStock_000008345824XSmall_zpssmz3qgi1.jpg
    Sorry, had to say it!
    - can i use your lighter?

    -what? you arent gunna call it in the morning ?
  • SM0K3Y
    SM0K3Y Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 519
    kuzi16:
    SM0K3Y:
    Spend a drunken night naked with it? Badumm tisss!

    photo iStock_000008345824XSmall_zpssmz3qgi1.jpg
    Sorry, had to say it!
    - can i use your lighter?

    -what? you arent gunna call it in the morning ?

    Depends, sometimes the good ole yardgars provide the most bang for the buck!
  • jd50ae
    jd50ae Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 4,109
    Can we ever really know a cigar completely?
  • Bob Luken
    Bob Luken Everyone, Registered Users Posts: 3,664
    jd50ae:
    Can we ever really know a cigar completely?
    I kinda' know the one I'm smoking. I completely know the first half. I'm still learning about the second half.