j0z3r: madurofan: j0z3r: madurofan: j0z3r:It is a losing battle unless jail time were the punishment for a first offense, if you take away their license, they can still drive, but they can't do it if they're locked up.In Virginia now its mandatory 30 days in Jail, first offense. Our DUI rate hasn't dropped since that was implemented.Yeah, that's what prompted the line after the one you quoted. Either the system is failing us, or we are failing ourselves...I'm not sure which, but neither one sounds all too good.I go back to what I've said many times. Stupid people are procreating faster than the intelligent ones. Put down your cigar and get to the procreation.That sounds like what I say...except I don't encourage procreation, with the people I know it would just be more fuel to the fire.
madurofan: j0z3r: madurofan: j0z3r:It is a losing battle unless jail time were the punishment for a first offense, if you take away their license, they can still drive, but they can't do it if they're locked up.In Virginia now its mandatory 30 days in Jail, first offense. Our DUI rate hasn't dropped since that was implemented.Yeah, that's what prompted the line after the one you quoted. Either the system is failing us, or we are failing ourselves...I'm not sure which, but neither one sounds all too good.I go back to what I've said many times. Stupid people are procreating faster than the intelligent ones. Put down your cigar and get to the procreation.
j0z3r: madurofan: j0z3r:It is a losing battle unless jail time were the punishment for a first offense, if you take away their license, they can still drive, but they can't do it if they're locked up.In Virginia now its mandatory 30 days in Jail, first offense. Our DUI rate hasn't dropped since that was implemented.Yeah, that's what prompted the line after the one you quoted. Either the system is failing us, or we are failing ourselves...I'm not sure which, but neither one sounds all too good.
madurofan: j0z3r:It is a losing battle unless jail time were the punishment for a first offense, if you take away their license, they can still drive, but they can't do it if they're locked up.In Virginia now its mandatory 30 days in Jail, first offense. Our DUI rate hasn't dropped since that was implemented.
j0z3r:It is a losing battle unless jail time were the punishment for a first offense, if you take away their license, they can still drive, but they can't do it if they're locked up.
urbino:People who've gotten a DUI should be issued a license plate that advertises that fact. Make them neon yellow or something. It'd instantly give the police and other drivers an important piece of info, and it would add a shame factor to discourage the behavior.
dutyje: urbino:People who've gotten a DUI should be issued a license plate that advertises that fact. Make them neon yellow or something. It'd instantly give the police and other drivers an important piece of info, and it would add a shame factor to discourage the behavior. First thought: brilliant idea! Second thought: bad idea. How long would it be until a half dozen "cool" celebrities screwed up and got a DUI. Major names in the entertainment industry are getting these DUIs as well. Picture Britney Spears driving around in her hummer with a neon yellow license plate.... I think the incidence of DUI in the younger crowd would begin to increase, to the point that it almost becomes a trophy rather than an embarrassment. This became the case with teen pregnancy when I was in high school. At certain schools (particularly in the inner city), girls were trying to get pregnant. Girls loved going to the mall on a Friday night with their baby in a stroller, and all the other girls giving her so much attention. I go to the mall once a year, but haven't been there yet this year (give me a couple more days)... Based on what I've seen, this trend hasn't really changed much. Kids can seem to take any punishment and turn it into a reward. Now, on top of that, what about people borrowing someone else's car? Or a couple that share vehicles like myself and my wife? If I got a DUI, could I get rid of my yellow plate by re-registering the car in my wife's name?
madurofan: dutyje: urbino:People who've gotten a DUI should be issued a license plate that advertises that fact. Make them neon yellow or something. It'd instantly give the police and other drivers an important piece of info, and it would add a shame factor to discourage the behavior. First thought: brilliant idea! Second thought: bad idea. How long would it be until a half dozen "cool" celebrities screwed up and got a DUI. Major names in the entertainment industry are getting these DUIs as well. Picture Britney Spears driving around in her hummer with a neon yellow license plate.... I think the incidence of DUI in the younger crowd would begin to increase, to the point that it almost becomes a trophy rather than an embarrassment. This became the case with teen pregnancy when I was in high school. At certain schools (particularly in the inner city), girls were trying to get pregnant. Girls loved going to the mall on a Friday night with their baby in a stroller, and all the other girls giving her so much attention. I go to the mall once a year, but haven't been there yet this year (give me a couple more days)... Based on what I've seen, this trend hasn't really changed much. Kids can seem to take any punishment and turn it into a reward. Now, on top of that, what about people borrowing someone else's car? Or a couple that share vehicles like myself and my wife? If I got a DUI, could I get rid of my yellow plate by re-registering the car in my wife's name?Why do you have to go and screw up a perfectly good idea by putting some thought into it. Don't you know we don't put any thought behind what we do here in America? Its the Bush way, uh I mean American way.
kuzi16:Ohio actually has that system. they are Red letters on a yellow background. I know some people that have and have had them. they get pulled over all the time. most DUI recipients dont put that much thought into it. my wife and i call em "party plates"
dutyje: kuzi16:Ohio actually has that system. they are Red letters on a yellow background. I know some people that have and have had them. they get pulled over all the time. most DUI recipients dont put that much thought into it. my wife and i call em "party plates" How long has this been in place? Have they had a chance to capture data on the success of the program? "Party Plates" ... there you have it
madurofan:Heh, thats awesome.Immediately duty wants numbers.
dutyje: madurofan:Heh, thats awesome.Immediately duty wants numbers. What can I say? I'm an analyst
madurofan: dutyje: madurofan:Heh, thats awesome.Immediately duty wants numbers. What can I say? I'm an analyst Does your wife ever just smack you bc there are somethings you just shouldn't analyze?
dutyje: madurofan: dutyje: madurofan:Heh, thats awesome.Immediately duty wants numbers. What can I say? I'm an analyst Does your wife ever just smack you bc there are somethings you just shouldn't analyze? I'm not a dumb analyst.. Over the years, through my analysis, I've learned the various types of things that people find it odd or offensive to analyze. Those spreadsheets remain private. She doesn't know my password, and we each have separate accounts on our computers
laker1963: dutyje: madurofan: dutyje: madurofan:Heh, thats awesome.Immediately duty wants numbers. What can I say? I'm an analyst Does your wife ever just smack you bc there are somethings you just shouldn't analyze? I'm not a dumb analyst.. Over the years, through my analysis, I've learned the various types of things that people find it odd or offensive to analyze. Those spreadsheets remain private. She doesn't know my password, and we each have separate accounts on our computers LMAO That's Dutyje's way of saying "she would if she knew about them" , you better hope you don't talk in your sleep Dutyje.
madurofan: laker1963: dutyje: madurofan: dutyje: madurofan:Heh, thats awesome.Immediately duty wants numbers. What can I say? I'm an analyst Does your wife ever just smack you bc there are somethings you just shouldn't analyze? I'm not a dumb analyst.. Over the years, through my analysis, I've learned the various types of things that people find it odd or offensive to analyze. Those spreadsheets remain private. She doesn't know my password, and we each have separate accounts on our computers LMAO That's Dutyje's way of saying "she would if she knew about them" , you better hope you don't talk in your sleep Dutyje.And he better hope no one ever tells her that Windows sucks and just bc its a seperate account she can still open his docs if she knows where to look. God I hope you've never analyzed anythign like her weight or the intensity of PMS. You think your foot hurts ...
dutyje: madurofan: laker1963: dutyje: madurofan: dutyje: madurofan:Heh, thats awesome.Immediately duty wants numbers. What can I say? I'm an analyst Does your wife ever just smack you bc there are somethings you just shouldn't analyze? I'm not a dumb analyst.. Over the years, through my analysis, I've learned the various types of things that people find it odd or offensive to analyze. Those spreadsheets remain private. She doesn't know my password, and we each have separate accounts on our computers LMAO That's Dutyje's way of saying "she would if she knew about them" , you better hope you don't talk in your sleep Dutyje.And he better hope no one ever tells her that Windows sucks and just bc its a seperate account she can still open his docs if she knows where to look. God I hope you've never analyzed anythign like her weight or the intensity of PMS. You think your foot hurts ... I assure you, all my documents are quite secure. I've been writing software for longer than you've been alive, so I'm at least well-enough equipped to hide my information from a non-technical person. If anyone worries me, it'd be my kids when they're old enough to go snooping around. Her weight? No.. don't track that. I actually do have a periodic (hehe) reminder set up to warn me when I can expect her to feel "stressed out." I am going to begin working that into the way we interact with our kids, so that they are prepared to deal with her when she is expected to be in a foul mood.
Dude you're not that much older than I am and I'm pretty damn sure Doogie is almost double my age so ...
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laker1963:Now I know you were trying to make a point here Maddy but was this really necessary?... Dude you're not that much older than I am and I'm pretty damn sure Doogie is almost double my age so ...Like I needed THAT thrown in my face. That's it! I'm only gonna talk to old farts around here from now on... you know like Urbi or Bad Andy. LMAO
urbino: laker1963:Now I know you were trying to make a point here Maddy but was this really necessary?... Dude you're not that much older than I am and I'm pretty damn sure Doogie is almost double my age so ...Like I needed THAT thrown in my face. That's it! I'm only gonna talk to old farts around here from now on... you know like Urbi or Bad Andy. LMAO Andy's old? I thought he was a whippersnapper.
madurofan: laker1963:deletedI wanna know what you originally said there.
laker1963: madurofan: laker1963:deletedI wanna know what you originally said there. LOL That was just an editing thing. I tried a couple of times to fix it, but was unsuccessful so I deleted the text. But I was in a flurry of thought thru-out the whole thing, I can tell you that !
madurofan: Dude you're not that much older than I am and I'm pretty damn sure Doogie is almost double my age so ...
madurofan:You are a brave man to have that periodic reminder. I only hope the message is encrypted.
dutyje: madurofan: Dude you're not that much older than I am and I'm pretty damn sure Doogie is almost double my age so ... Was this about my "writing software longer than you've been alive" comment? If you count when I wrote "Hello World" as my entry into software development, then it is true. madurofan:You are a brave man to have that periodic reminder. I only hope the message is encrypted. It's just an Outlook reminder on my work machine that pops up and says "Palpitations." I named it because the action usually begins when she looks around our (perpetually) messy house, sits down, sighs, and says, "This place is such a mess. It's giving me heart palpitations."
madurofan:You wrote hello world 27 years ago?
dutyje: madurofan:You wrote hello world 27 years ago? yep
dutyje:Yessir, I was 7. OK, technically, it would have been 26 yrs and 11 months (or so) ago. Atari 2600. BASIC Programming was one of the new cartridges I was given for Christmas. We got a C-64 the next Christmas, and I started learning sprites, peek and poke, etc. I wrote a bunch programs for D&D in the coming years, and even wrote the software to turn our school's computer lab into a polling station for an informal mock election run by the students. One year, I was given Turbo Pascal as a Christmas gift, and I began writing software for the PC (Jr.). Then I went to Turbo C by high school and C++ was, of course, what I learned in college. You have to understand that the spreadsheets are a massive technical digression from my early days. I'm actually relativel incompetent technically these days
