Liberty 2012's?

when did they come out? can I go and purchase it somewhere? I hear they are pretty hot sellers.

Rob1110

haven't even seen 'em yet. Come to think of it, I think only one local shop got in the 2011s and after my disappointment with the 2010, I wasn't sure if I wanted to get into these again. Just had an 09 recently and wasn't really wowed.

Opened 2011 had mold, right from b&m pissed off , got credit though, so worked out!:-)

MVW67:
Opened 2011 had mold, right from b&m pissed off , got credit though, so worked out!:-)

Must have been something about the 2011's. Put away too fresh or something. There seemed to bo a lot of BOTL complaining about mold in the coffins of these sticks. Hopefully 2012 goes better, cause they are usually very tasty sticks. Pheebs got me into them with a 2008 I believe it was!

laker1963:
MVW67:
Opened 2011 had mold, right from b&m pissed off , got credit though, so worked out!:-)
Must have been something about the 2011's. Put away too fresh or something. There seemed to bo a lot of BOTL complaining about mold in the coffins of these sticks. Hopefully 2012 goes better, cause they are usually very tasty sticks. Pheebs got me into them with a 2008 I believe it was!

local b&m usually has them will look for 12 for us......:-)

MVW67:
laker1963:
MVW67:
Opened 2011 had mold, right from b&m pissed off , got credit though, so worked out!:-)
Must have been something about the 2011's. Put away too fresh or something. There seemed to bo a lot of BOTL complaining about mold in the coffins of these sticks. Hopefully 2012 goes better, cause they are usually very tasty sticks. Pheebs got me into them with a 2008 I believe it was!
local b&m usually has them will look for 12 for us......:-)

don't you dare go look for us. you've done enough. we'll look for YOU. stupid mike...

jliu:
MVW67:
laker1963:
MVW67:
Opened 2011 had mold, right from b&m pissed off , got credit though, so worked out!:-)
Must have been something about the 2011's. Put away too fresh or something. There seemed to bo a lot of BOTL complaining about mold in the coffins of these sticks. Hopefully 2012 goes better, cause they are usually very tasty sticks. Pheebs got me into them with a 2008 I believe it was!
local b&m usually has them will look for 12 for us......:-)
don't you dare go look for us. you've done enough. we'll look for YOU. stupid mike...

I don't have a B&M and most in Vancouver or Victoria that do sell sticks think that $40 Cubans are all anybody wants. With the stupid tobacco laws and taxes here, nobody in the retail business takes cigar smoking seriously. If anybody does find them I would be happy (hell, I'd be thrilled ) to trade for one.

But I do have to agree with jliu... Mike, you a big stupid :-)~

rzaman

I am a Camacho fan and used like yearly liberty line cigars but not anymore. I still remember the great liberty from 2005, 2006 and 2007. Then after 2008 I lost my interest because I felt the quality went down and never try to try the later releases. I would like to know about your experience. Maybe they improved...I don't know.

Lee.mcglynn

laker1963:
jliu:
MVW67:
laker1963:
MVW67:
Opened 2011 had mold, right from b&m pissed off , got credit though, so worked out!:-)
Must have been something about the 2011's. Put away too fresh or something. There seemed to bo a lot of BOTL complaining about mold in the coffins of these sticks. Hopefully 2012 goes better, cause they are usually very tasty sticks. Pheebs got me into them with a 2008 I believe it was!
local b&m usually has them will look for 12 for us......:-)
don't you dare go look for us. you've done enough. we'll look for YOU. stupid mike...
I don't have a B&M and most in Vancouver or Victoria that do sell sticks think that $40 Cubans are all anybody wants. With the stupid tobacco laws and taxes here, nobody in the retail business takes cigar smoking seriously. If anybody does find them I would be happy (hell, I'd be thrilled ) to trade for one.

But I do have to agree with jliu... Mike, you a big stupid :-)~

We will all look for them!! I'm pretty eager to see how they turn out

Rob1110:
haven't even seen 'em yet. Come to think of it, I think only one local shop got in the 2011s and after my disappointment with the 2010, I wasn't sure if I wanted to get into these again. Just had an 09 recently and wasn't really wowed.

I pulled out an 09 recently as well, but I was a bit more impressed with it. In comparison to how they were when I bought them, I'd say they've come a long way, but not quite there yet.

j0z3r:
Rob1110:
haven't even seen 'em yet. Come to think of it, I think only one local shop got in the 2011s and after my disappointment with the 2010, I wasn't sure if I wanted to get into these again. Just had an 09 recently and wasn't really wowed.
I pulled out an 09 recently as well, but I was a bit more impressed with it. In comparison to how they were when I bought them, I'd say they've come a long way, but not quite there yet.

Joe joe when you say "not quite there yet" what do you exactly mean by that? What kind of tasting notes will lead you to think that?

Found singles, 4 packs and boxes of 2012, still nervous!!:-)

I found better than what you found I bet. don't worry my michael williams. i'll take care of you

jliu:
I found better than what you found I bet. don't worry my michael williams. i'll take care of you

please see list!!:-)

MVW67:
Found singles, 4 packs and boxes of 2012, still nervous!!:-)

jliu:
I found better than what you found I bet. don't worry my michael williams. i'll take care of you

When you two figure out who's is bigger I would still like to trade for one or two of these. If there is a box split happening I"M IN !

laker1963:
MVW67:
Found singles, 4 packs and boxes of 2012, still nervous!!:-)

jliu:
I found better than what you found I bet. don't worry my michael williams. i'll take care of you
When you two figure out who's is bigger I would still like to trade for one or two of these. If there is a box split happening I"M IN !

Dougie you were in before you knew it!! Lol:-)

MVW67:
laker1963:
MVW67:
Found singles, 4 packs and boxes of 2012, still nervous!!:-)

jliu:
I found better than what you found I bet. don't worry my michael williams. i'll take care of you
When you two figure out who's is bigger I would still like to trade for one or two of these. If there is a box split happening I"M IN !
Dougie you were in before you knew it!! Lol:-)

OooOOo douggie douggie douggie. OOoOo Hang Over douggie douggie douggie dooouuuggieee. I see youuu. waves hi

jliu:
MVW67:
laker1963:
MVW67:
Found singles, 4 packs and boxes of 2012, still nervous!!:-)

jliu:
I found better than what you found I bet. don't worry my michael williams. i'll take care of you
When you two figure out who's is bigger I would still like to trade for one or two of these. If there is a box split happening I"M IN !
Dougie you were in before you knew it!! Lol:-)
OooOOo douggie douggie douggie. OOoOo Hang Over douggie douggie douggie dooouuuggieee. I see youuu. waves hi

Mike, are you telling me that you are starting another international incidence? Thank you kind sir, i'll be putting on my hockey helmet after dinner.

Waving back at you Jliu. Don't know why, but I can't think of anything else to do. LMAO

jliu:
j0z3r:
Rob1110:
haven't even seen 'em yet. Come to think of it, I think only one local shop got in the 2011s and after my disappointment with the 2010, I wasn't sure if I wanted to get into these again. Just had an 09 recently and wasn't really wowed.
I pulled out an 09 recently as well, but I was a bit more impressed with it. In comparison to how they were when I bought them, I'd say they've come a long way, but not quite there yet.
Joe joe when you say "not quite there yet" what do you exactly mean by that? What kind of tasting notes will lead you to think that?

Just going on a hunch juju...I think it has more evolving to do.

j0z3r:
jliu:
j0z3r:
Rob1110:
haven't even seen 'em yet. Come to think of it, I think only one local shop got in the 2011s and after my disappointment with the 2010, I wasn't sure if I wanted to get into these again. Just had an 09 recently and wasn't really wowed.
I pulled out an 09 recently as well, but I was a bit more impressed with it. In comparison to how they were when I bought them, I'd say they've come a long way, but not quite there yet.
Joe joe when you say "not quite there yet" what do you exactly mean by that? What kind of tasting notes will lead you to think that?
Just going on a hunch juju...I think it has more evolving to do.

That's my favorite bumper sticker... it just says "evolve already damnit!"

laker1963:
j0z3r:
jliu:
j0z3r:
Rob1110:
haven't even seen 'em yet. Come to think of it, I think only one local shop got in the 2011s and after my disappointment with the 2010, I wasn't sure if I wanted to get into these again. Just had an 09 recently and wasn't really wowed.
I pulled out an 09 recently as well, but I was a bit more impressed with it. In comparison to how they were when I bought them, I'd say they've come a long way, but not quite there yet.
Joe joe when you say "not quite there yet" what do you exactly mean by that? What kind of tasting notes will lead you to think that?
Just going on a hunch juju...I think it has more evolving to do.
That's my favorite bumper sticker... it just says "evolve already damnit!"

geez... I was actually asking a serious question. But you're prob going to say it was a serious answer haha.

jliu:
laker1963:
j0z3r:
jliu:
j0z3r:
Rob1110:
haven't even seen 'em yet. Come to think of it, I think only one local shop got in the 2011s and after my disappointment with the 2010, I wasn't sure if I wanted to get into these again. Just had an 09 recently and wasn't really wowed.
I pulled out an 09 recently as well, but I was a bit more impressed with it. In comparison to how they were when I bought them, I'd say they've come a long way, but not quite there yet.
Joe joe when you say "not quite there yet" what do you exactly mean by that? What kind of tasting notes will lead you to think that?
Just going on a hunch juju...I think it has more evolving to do.
That's my favorite bumper sticker... it just says "evolve already damnit!"
geez... I was actually asking a serious question. But you're prob going to say it was a serious answer haha.

It was a serious answer on my part. I don't deal in tasting notes, too much hassle...a cigar is either great, good, not good...or not there yet.

laker1963:
j0z3r:
jliu:
j0z3r:
Rob1110:
haven't even seen 'em yet. Come to think of it, I think only one local shop got in the 2011s and after my disappointment with the 2010, I wasn't sure if I wanted to get into these again. Just had an 09 recently and wasn't really wowed.
I pulled out an 09 recently as well, but I was a bit more impressed with it. In comparison to how they were when I bought them, I'd say they've come a long way, but not quite there yet.
Joe joe when you say "not quite there yet" what do you exactly mean by that? What kind of tasting notes will lead you to think that?
Just going on a hunch juju...I think it has more evolving to do.
That's my favorite bumper sticker... it just says "evolve already damnit!"

Was looking for the video but didn't have any luck...

You know how in many parts of our troubled world they are yelling 'revolution! revolution!' In Tennessee they are yelling 'evolution...we want our thumbs!' The thing is they see people with thumbs on T.V. all day, boy that's got to drive them hog-wild huh? [mimics monkey] Trailers are shaking. They're nice people they're just, what would you call 'em - rural? Backwoods, country? They're real nice, after a show one of these guys came up to me and said 'hey, you're great, you cracked me up, I was about to spit!' ...Sorry? He said 'no I loved it, I'd like you to meet my wife and sister.' And there was one girl standing there...not a thumb between 'em. Goddamnit now what are the odds of that? Okay the girl had a little nub growin' in, but girls evolve quicker than guys.

hahah fully understood! no I totally hear ya. At the end of the day, I just gauge based on my own taste buds what I think is good and what I think is crap. I used to take all these notes when I smoke cigars but nowadays, not really. "this is good. I should get more" "this tastes like rotten chow mein, pass." I was just curious what you thought of that particular cigar that made you think it needed more time. But ya, totally understand your perspective b/c I basically do the same thing

jliu:
hahah fully understood! no I totally hear ya. At the end of the day, I just gauge based on my own taste buds what I think is good and what I think is crap. I used to take all these notes when I smoke cigars but nowadays, not really. "this is good. I should get more" "this tastes like rotten chow mein, pass." I was just curious what you thought of that particular cigar that made you think it needed more time. But ya, totally understand your perspective b/c I basically do the same thing

I see...what made me think it needs more time is the flavors were not cohesive and the balance was off. I may very well be wrong and maybe this is as good as it gets... who knows?

j0z3r:
laker1963:
j0z3r:
jliu:
j0z3r:
Rob1110:
haven't even seen 'em yet. Come to think of it, I think only one local shop got in the 2011s and after my disappointment with the 2010, I wasn't sure if I wanted to get into these again. Just had an 09 recently and wasn't really wowed.
I pulled out an 09 recently as well, but I was a bit more impressed with it. In comparison to how they were when I bought them, I'd say they've come a long way, but not quite there yet.
Joe joe when you say "not quite there yet" what do you exactly mean by that? What kind of tasting notes will lead you to think that?
Just going on a hunch juju...I think it has more evolving to do.
That's my favorite bumper sticker... it just says "evolve already damnit!"
Was looking for the video but didn't have any luck...

You know how in many parts of our troubled world they are yelling 'revolution! revolution!' In Tennessee they are yelling 'evolution...we want our thumbs!' The thing is they see people with thumbs on T.V. all day, boy that's got to drive them hog-wild huh? [mimics monkey] Trailers are shaking. They're nice people they're just, what would you call 'em - rural? Backwoods, country? They're real nice, after a show one of these guys came up to me and said 'hey, you're great, you cracked me up, I was about to spit!' ...Sorry? He said 'no I loved it, I'd like you to meet my wife and sister.' And there was one girl standing there...not a thumb between 'em. Goddamnit now what are the odds of that? Okay the girl had a little nub growin' in, but girls evolve quicker than guys.

HOLY COW JOE !!!! LMAO I spit my milk when I read this!

milk? right now????

Well I was having cereal actually